Re: MobileOrg and Voice Capturing (Android)

From: Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>
To: Mark Elston <m_elston@comcast.net>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: MobileOrg and Voice Capturing (Android)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:04:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTinNQCGmV=dOems0+mptLXbMx3GTD6av6vti1LWY@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CF46B08.2020200@comcast.net>

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I have this grand plan to implement support for this in MobileOrg, I didn't
realize the project had changed, thanks for piquing my interest in it again.

http://matburt.net

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Mark Elston <m_elston@comcast.net> wrote:

> Have you looked at sl4a (formerly ase)?  With it you can
> start Intents and perform clipboard operations plus file
> manipulations using a standard scripting language like
> perl, python, or ruby (among others).  This might be
> very useful.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 11/28/2010 11:10 AM, Sven Bretfeld wrote:
>
>> Hi together
>>
>> TextToSpeech has made our lives easier, especially for car-drivers like
>> me. I have tried to capture tasks by voice on my Android device and
>> implement them automatically to my org-files at home. The results are
>> practicable but far from optimal by now. Maybe there are some Android
>> users on this list who like to get involved in trying to find an optimal
>> solution.
>>
>> *My method at the moment:*
>>
>> I use "tasker," the Android killer-app for automatizing almost every
>> thinkable task. Created a new task called "org-voice" with tasker.
>> Pressing the associated icon does the following:
>>
>> 1. Plays Darth Vader's voice saying "What is thy bidding, my master?"
>>
>> 2. Loads app Voice2Clipboard
>>
>> 3. Waits for 30 seconds (to get Voice2Clipboard ready for recording and
>>    for me to finish speaking the note)
>>
>> 4. Write File: Writes the clipboard content to a file
>>    /sdcard/dropbox/org/org-voice.org
>>
>> After uploading the file with Dropbox, a cronjob on my PC (which is
>> always switched on) takes care of the file. Its lines (each is a capture
>> item) are transformed by a series of sed operations and put into a
>> different file from-org-voice.org together with some TAGS and a TODO
>> keyword; after that the original file is emptied. That's it.
>>
>> The problem with this approach is that you still have to manually
>> download the (empty) capture-file (org-voice.org)[¹] and to manually
>> upload
>> it again, because Dropbox for Android doesn't sync changed files on the
>> sdcard automatically. And especially to upload process needs quite a
>> view clicks.
>>
>> *What would be better:*
>>
>> Use MobileOrg and have the clipboard contents written into the file used
>> by MobileOrg for written captures. This is
>> /sdcard/mobileorg/mobileorg.org if you use sdcard-storage. This way, you
>> could use MobileOrg's own syncing process and no cronjob would be
>> necessary.
>>
>> This could be done in two ways:
>>
>> 1. Use the same procedure and let tasker write the contents into the
>>    file directly. This is not possible for me since I have to use
>>    internal-storage for reasons of performance[²] and the files in
>>    /data/data/com.matburt.mobileorg/files/ are not writable for other
>>    programs without root.
>>
>> 2. Use tasker to start MobileOrg, enter the capture dialog and have a
>>    voice recognition app started. I simply don't know how to do that.
>>
>> Maybe tasker can even be programmed to automatically start MobileOrg's
>> syncing process from time to time. But I don't know if and how this is
>> possible.
>>
>> Does anybody have a better solution? Or a better idea?
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Sven
>>
>> [¹]  If you don't, the next sync with dropbox would replace the file
>> with your notes by the empty file hosted on the Dropbox server.
>> [²]  On HTC Magic (Android 1.6) sdcard-storage makes MobileOrg
>> incredibly slow. It takes more than a minute after starting MobileOrg
>> until the files are displayed.
>>
>>
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