* C-u C-c C-x C-j to directly jump to the task with there is just one? @ 2009-04-21 12:55 Bastien 2009-04-21 13:33 ` Bernt Hansen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2009-04-21 12:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode When the list of recent tasks only has one item, would it make sense to directly jump to it? Or maybe people use `C-u C-c C-x C-j' as a way to check what has been done (without jumping to the task)? -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: C-u C-c C-x C-j to directly jump to the task with there is just one? 2009-04-21 12:55 C-u C-c C-x C-j to directly jump to the task with there is just one? Bastien @ 2009-04-21 13:33 ` Bernt Hansen 2009-04-21 16:16 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Bernt Hansen @ 2009-04-21 13:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes: > When the list of recent tasks only has one item, would it make sense to > directly jump to it? Or maybe people use `C-u C-c C-x C-j' as a way to > check what has been done (without jumping to the task)? For the prefix only it would probably be okay to just jump there if there is only a single match. I've seen cases where there is the same match for 3 entries (d - default clock task, i-interrupted task, and c-current task (or [1] current task if you are not clocking now but that never happens for me) I guess we could ignore the current, default, and interrupted tasks and only consider what is in the recent list. I use this to change tasks I'm clocking (F11 = C-c C-x C-j). I occasionally use it with the prefix to jump to a task I was recently clocking. I don't think my list is ever empty since I save it between Emacs restarts and my org-clock-history is set at 35. I do sometimes use 'q' to bail out of the list without doing anything (since 'q' is never a valid selection key but I should probably just use C-g instead) -- I go to clock something else in and then change my mind and find a new task to clock in elsewhere. I would not want the default behaviour to change if you are selecting a task to clock. I'm okay with directly jumping for the prefix only case. -Bernt ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: C-u C-c C-x C-j to directly jump to the task with there is just one? 2009-04-21 13:33 ` Bernt Hansen @ 2009-04-21 16:16 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-04-21 17:22 ` Bernt Hansen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-21 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bernt Hansen; +Cc: Bastien, emacs-orgmode How about making RET an alias for either the task currently being clocked, or the most recently clocked one, or the default task, first one of this sequence that exists? Hmmm, not sure if this really makes a difference.... - Carsten On Apr 21, 2009, at 3:33 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: > Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes: > >> When the list of recent tasks only has one item, would it make >> sense to >> directly jump to it? Or maybe people use `C-u C-c C-x C-j' as a >> way to >> check what has been done (without jumping to the task)? > > For the prefix only it would probably be okay to just jump there if > there is only a single match. I've seen cases where there is the same > match for 3 entries (d - default clock task, i-interrupted task, and > c-current task (or [1] current task if you are not clocking now but > that > never happens for me) I guess we could ignore the current, default, > and > interrupted tasks and only consider what is in the recent list. > > I use this to change tasks I'm clocking (F11 = C-c C-x C-j). I > occasionally use it with the prefix to jump to a task I was recently > clocking. I don't think my list is ever empty since I save it between > Emacs restarts and my org-clock-history is set at 35. > > I do sometimes use 'q' to bail out of the list without doing anything > (since 'q' is never a valid selection key but I should probably just > use > C-g instead) -- I go to clock something else in and then change my > mind > and find a new task to clock in elsewhere. > > I would not want the default behaviour to change if you are > selecting a > task to clock. I'm okay with directly jumping for the prefix only > case. > > -Bernt > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: C-u C-c C-x C-j to directly jump to the task with there is just one? 2009-04-21 16:16 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-21 17:22 ` Bernt Hansen 2009-04-21 18:34 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Bernt Hansen @ 2009-04-21 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Bastien, emacs-orgmode The current task [c] and the first task [1] are always the same aren't they? So using '1' for that already works. Maybe a better solution is to make it work without the prefix? Go to the current clocking task and if there is none then go to the last clocked task (if you can find it) otherwise issue the error we get now: "org-clock-goto: No active clock" That way you can just do C-c C-x C-j with no prefix and you are on the last clocked task (whether it is clocking now or not.) I don't see how adding RET for the menu which means the same as [1] will really help. -Bernt Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: > How about making RET an alias for either the task > currently being clocked, or the most recently clocked > one, or the default task, first one of this sequence > that exists? > > Hmmm, not sure if this really makes a difference.... > > - Carsten > > > On Apr 21, 2009, at 3:33 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: > >> Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes: >> >>> When the list of recent tasks only has one item, would it make >>> sense to >>> directly jump to it? Or maybe people use `C-u C-c C-x C-j' as a >>> way to >>> check what has been done (without jumping to the task)? >> >> For the prefix only it would probably be okay to just jump there if >> there is only a single match. I've seen cases where there is the same >> match for 3 entries (d - default clock task, i-interrupted task, and >> c-current task (or [1] current task if you are not clocking now but >> that >> never happens for me) I guess we could ignore the current, default, >> and >> interrupted tasks and only consider what is in the recent list. >> >> I use this to change tasks I'm clocking (F11 = C-c C-x C-j). I >> occasionally use it with the prefix to jump to a task I was recently >> clocking. I don't think my list is ever empty since I save it between >> Emacs restarts and my org-clock-history is set at 35. >> >> I do sometimes use 'q' to bail out of the list without doing anything >> (since 'q' is never a valid selection key but I should probably just >> use >> C-g instead) -- I go to clock something else in and then change my >> mind >> and find a new task to clock in elsewhere. >> >> I would not want the default behaviour to change if you are >> selecting a >> task to clock. I'm okay with directly jumping for the prefix only >> case. >> >> -Bernt >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: C-u C-c C-x C-j to directly jump to the task with there is just one? 2009-04-21 17:22 ` Bernt Hansen @ 2009-04-21 18:34 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-04-21 18:38 ` Bernt Hansen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-21 18:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bernt Hansen; +Cc: Bastien, emacs-orgmode On Apr 21, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: > The current task [c] and the first task [1] are always the same aren't > they? So using '1' for that already works. > > Maybe a better solution is to make it work without the prefix? Go to > the current clocking task and if there is none then go to the last > clocked task (if you can find it) otherwise issue the error we get > now: > "org-clock-goto: No active clock" > > That way you can just do C-c C-x C-j with no prefix and you are on the > last clocked task (whether it is clocking now or not.) This does make sense, and I have done it like this. Bastien, is this to your liking as well? Thanks. - Carsten > > I don't see how adding RET for the menu which means the same as [1] > will > really help. > > -Bernt > > > Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: > >> How about making RET an alias for either the task >> currently being clocked, or the most recently clocked >> one, or the default task, first one of this sequence >> that exists? >> >> Hmmm, not sure if this really makes a difference.... >> >> - Carsten >> >> >> On Apr 21, 2009, at 3:33 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: >> >>> Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes: >>> >>>> When the list of recent tasks only has one item, would it make >>>> sense to >>>> directly jump to it? Or maybe people use `C-u C-c C-x C-j' as a >>>> way to >>>> check what has been done (without jumping to the task)? >>> >>> For the prefix only it would probably be okay to just jump there if >>> there is only a single match. I've seen cases where there is the >>> same >>> match for 3 entries (d - default clock task, i-interrupted task, and >>> c-current task (or [1] current task if you are not clocking now but >>> that >>> never happens for me) I guess we could ignore the current, default, >>> and >>> interrupted tasks and only consider what is in the recent list. >>> >>> I use this to change tasks I'm clocking (F11 = C-c C-x C-j). I >>> occasionally use it with the prefix to jump to a task I was recently >>> clocking. I don't think my list is ever empty since I save it >>> between >>> Emacs restarts and my org-clock-history is set at 35. >>> >>> I do sometimes use 'q' to bail out of the list without doing >>> anything >>> (since 'q' is never a valid selection key but I should probably just >>> use >>> C-g instead) -- I go to clock something else in and then change my >>> mind >>> and find a new task to clock in elsewhere. >>> >>> I would not want the default behaviour to change if you are >>> selecting a >>> task to clock. I'm okay with directly jumping for the prefix only >>> case. >>> >>> -Bernt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: C-u C-c C-x C-j to directly jump to the task with there is just one? 2009-04-21 18:34 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-21 18:38 ` Bernt Hansen 2009-04-22 4:19 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Bernt Hansen @ 2009-04-21 18:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Bastien, emacs-orgmode One problem with that might be if people (including me) use C-c C-x C-j to see if the clock is running :) I've mapped F11 = C-c C-x C-j so I just hit that key all the time. If it beeps and says 'no active clock' then I know I have to start the clock on something. Jumping to the last clocked item when no clock is running will change that behaviour (although I'm not sure that's really bad) I could (and probably should) just get in the habit of looking at the modeline instead :) -Bernt Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: > On Apr 21, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: > >> The current task [c] and the first task [1] are always the same aren't >> they? So using '1' for that already works. >> >> Maybe a better solution is to make it work without the prefix? Go to >> the current clocking task and if there is none then go to the last >> clocked task (if you can find it) otherwise issue the error we get >> now: >> "org-clock-goto: No active clock" >> >> That way you can just do C-c C-x C-j with no prefix and you are on the >> last clocked task (whether it is clocking now or not.) > > This does make sense, and I have done it like this. > > Bastien, is this to your liking as well? > > Thanks. > > - Carsten > >> >> I don't see how adding RET for the menu which means the same as [1] >> will >> really help. >> >> -Bernt >> >> >> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: >> >>> How about making RET an alias for either the task >>> currently being clocked, or the most recently clocked >>> one, or the default task, first one of this sequence >>> that exists? >>> >>> Hmmm, not sure if this really makes a difference.... >>> >>> - Carsten >>> >>> >>> On Apr 21, 2009, at 3:33 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: >>> >>>> Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes: >>>> >>>>> When the list of recent tasks only has one item, would it make >>>>> sense to >>>>> directly jump to it? Or maybe people use `C-u C-c C-x C-j' as a >>>>> way to >>>>> check what has been done (without jumping to the task)? >>>> >>>> For the prefix only it would probably be okay to just jump there if >>>> there is only a single match. I've seen cases where there is the >>>> same >>>> match for 3 entries (d - default clock task, i-interrupted task, and >>>> c-current task (or [1] current task if you are not clocking now but >>>> that >>>> never happens for me) I guess we could ignore the current, default, >>>> and >>>> interrupted tasks and only consider what is in the recent list. >>>> >>>> I use this to change tasks I'm clocking (F11 = C-c C-x C-j). I >>>> occasionally use it with the prefix to jump to a task I was recently >>>> clocking. I don't think my list is ever empty since I save it >>>> between >>>> Emacs restarts and my org-clock-history is set at 35. >>>> >>>> I do sometimes use 'q' to bail out of the list without doing >>>> anything >>>> (since 'q' is never a valid selection key but I should probably just >>>> use >>>> C-g instead) -- I go to clock something else in and then change my >>>> mind >>>> and find a new task to clock in elsewhere. >>>> >>>> I would not want the default behaviour to change if you are >>>> selecting a >>>> task to clock. I'm okay with directly jumping for the prefix only >>>> case. >>>> >>>> -Bernt >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: C-u C-c C-x C-j to directly jump to the task with there is just one? 2009-04-21 18:38 ` Bernt Hansen @ 2009-04-22 4:19 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-22 4:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bernt Hansen; +Cc: Bastien, emacs-orgmode On Apr 21, 2009, at 8:38 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: > One problem with that might be if people (including me) use C-c C-x > C-j > to see if the clock is running :) > > I've mapped F11 = C-c C-x C-j so I just hit that key all the time. If > it beeps and says 'no active clock' then I know I have to start the > clock on something. Jumping to the last clocked item when no clock is > running will change that behaviour (although I'm not sure that's > really > bad) I could (and probably should) just get in the habit of looking > at > the modeline instead :) Yes, maybe. Or use a special function that tests for (marker-buffer org-clock-marker) I would even think a function to test for the clock without going there might be better for this purpose - because you will not always want to go there just for checking.... - Carsten > > -Bernt > > > Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: > >> On Apr 21, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: >> >>> The current task [c] and the first task [1] are always the same >>> aren't >>> they? So using '1' for that already works. >>> >>> Maybe a better solution is to make it work without the prefix? Go >>> to >>> the current clocking task and if there is none then go to the last >>> clocked task (if you can find it) otherwise issue the error we get >>> now: >>> "org-clock-goto: No active clock" >>> >>> That way you can just do C-c C-x C-j with no prefix and you are on >>> the >>> last clocked task (whether it is clocking now or not.) >> >> This does make sense, and I have done it like this. >> >> Bastien, is this to your liking as well? >> >> Thanks. >> >> - Carsten >> >>> >>> I don't see how adding RET for the menu which means the same as [1] >>> will >>> really help. >>> >>> -Bernt >>> >>> >>> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: >>> >>>> How about making RET an alias for either the task >>>> currently being clocked, or the most recently clocked >>>> one, or the default task, first one of this sequence >>>> that exists? >>>> >>>> Hmmm, not sure if this really makes a difference.... >>>> >>>> - Carsten >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 21, 2009, at 3:33 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> When the list of recent tasks only has one item, would it make >>>>>> sense to >>>>>> directly jump to it? Or maybe people use `C-u C-c C-x C-j' as a >>>>>> way to >>>>>> check what has been done (without jumping to the task)? >>>>> >>>>> For the prefix only it would probably be okay to just jump there >>>>> if >>>>> there is only a single match. I've seen cases where there is the >>>>> same >>>>> match for 3 entries (d - default clock task, i-interrupted task, >>>>> and >>>>> c-current task (or [1] current task if you are not clocking now >>>>> but >>>>> that >>>>> never happens for me) I guess we could ignore the current, >>>>> default, >>>>> and >>>>> interrupted tasks and only consider what is in the recent list. >>>>> >>>>> I use this to change tasks I'm clocking (F11 = C-c C-x C-j). I >>>>> occasionally use it with the prefix to jump to a task I was >>>>> recently >>>>> clocking. I don't think my list is ever empty since I save it >>>>> between >>>>> Emacs restarts and my org-clock-history is set at 35. >>>>> >>>>> I do sometimes use 'q' to bail out of the list without doing >>>>> anything >>>>> (since 'q' is never a valid selection key but I should probably >>>>> just >>>>> use >>>>> C-g instead) -- I go to clock something else in and then change my >>>>> mind >>>>> and find a new task to clock in elsewhere. >>>>> >>>>> I would not want the default behaviour to change if you are >>>>> selecting a >>>>> task to clock. I'm okay with directly jumping for the prefix only >>>>> case. >>>>> >>>>> -Bernt >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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