* "Fortran" missing "in List of supported code block languages"?
@ 2015-05-14 6:19 Alain.Cochard
2015-05-14 14:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
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From: Alain.Cochard @ 2015-05-14 6:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode; +Cc: Alain Cochard
I was starting investigating "Working with source code". I tried with
the bloc:
#+BEGIN_SRC fortran
#+END_SRC
The 'fortran' keyword is indeed recognized in the edit buffer, and, as
far as I can see, everything works quite well.
But I later realized that 'Fortran' is not mentioned in the list of
supported languages, section 14.7 of the org info manual [File: org,
Node: Languages]. Perhaps because it is still in development? But if
I had checked this list before, I wouldn't even have tried it, waiting
for better times... Is there an independent way of checking which
languages are supported?
Thanks
--
(As an aside note, I fail to understand why the 'Emacs Calc' language,
with identifier 'calc', appears before 'C' in the list. Perhaps
because it is difficult to update such a two-column format, and 'calc'
is close enough to its true place? But, for me at least, I fell that
a single column would actually be less confusing; and anyway, I
believe a blank line after the "Language ... Identifier" line would
help.)
Package: Org-mode version 8.2.10 (release_8.2.10 @
/usr/share/emacs/24.5/lisp/org/)
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* Re: "Fortran" missing "in List of supported code block languages"?
@ 2015-05-14 10:56 John Kitchin
2015-05-14 11:05 ` Rasmus
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From: John Kitchin @ 2015-05-14 10:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: alain.cochard@unistra.fr, emacs-orgmode@gnu org; +Cc: Alain Cochard
Fortran is supported in the sense that you can edit a block in Fortran mode. But you cannot execute a Fortran block directly afaik. You have to tangle it, compile it and then run the executable.
For example like this:
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2014/02/04/Literate-programming-example-with-Fortran-and-org-mode/
On May 14, 2015, at 2:20 AM, Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr wrote:
I was starting investigating "Working with source code". I tried with
the bloc:
#+BEGIN_SRC fortran
#+END_SRC
The 'fortran' keyword is indeed recognized in the edit buffer, and, as
far as I can see, everything works quite well.
But I later realized that 'Fortran' is not mentioned in the list of
supported languages, section 14.7 of the org info manual [File: org,
Node: Languages]. Perhaps because it is still in development? But if
I had checked this list before, I wouldn't even have tried it, waiting
for better times... Is there an independent way of checking which
languages are supported?
Thanks
--
(As an aside note, I fail to understand why the 'Emacs Calc' language,
with identifier 'calc', appears before 'C' in the list. Perhaps
because it is difficult to update such a two-column format, and 'calc'
is close enough to its true place? But, for me at least, I fell that
a single column would actually be less confusing; and anyway, I
believe a blank line after the "Language ... Identifier" line would
help.)
Package: Org-mode version 8.2.10 (release_8.2.10 @
/usr/share/emacs/24.5/lisp/org/)
--
EOST (École et Observatoire des Sciences de la Terre)
IPG (Institut de Physique du Globe) | alain.cochard@unistra.fr
5 rue René Descartes [bureau 106] | Phone: +33 (0)3 68 85 50 44
F-67084 Strasbourg Cedex, France | Fax: +33 (0)3 68 85 01 25
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* Re: "Fortran" missing "in List of supported code block languages"?
2015-05-14 10:56 "Fortran" missing "in List of supported code block languages"? John Kitchin
@ 2015-05-14 11:05 ` Rasmus
2015-05-14 12:37 ` "Fortran" missing in "List " Alain.Cochard
2015-05-14 12:37 ` Alain.Cochard
2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Rasmus @ 2015-05-14 11:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
John Kitchin <johnrkitchin@gmail.com> writes:
> Is there an independent way of checking which languages are supported?
On a file-system level you could do something like:
ls /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org*/ob* | grep -i fortran
=> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org/ob-fortran.el
In Emacs you could to something like:
M-x find-library ob- [TAB].
There's also the apropos commands.
Hope it helps,
Rasmus
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* Re: "Fortran" missing in "List of supported code block languages"?
2015-05-14 10:56 "Fortran" missing "in List of supported code block languages"? John Kitchin
2015-05-14 11:05 ` Rasmus
@ 2015-05-14 12:37 ` Alain.Cochard
2015-05-14 14:01 ` Ista Zahn
2015-05-14 12:37 ` Alain.Cochard
2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Alain.Cochard @ 2015-05-14 12:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode; +Cc: Alain Cochard
John Kitchin writes:
> Fortran is supported in the sense that you can edit a block in
> Fortran mode. But you cannot execute a Fortran block directly
> afaik. You have to tangle it, compile it and then run the
> executable.
Thanks for the precision. I guess it would not hurt to mention this
kind of details in the doc, to some extent at least.
> For example like this:
>
> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2014/02/04/Literate-programming-example-with-Fortran-and-org-mode/
Very helpful. Seems to me that having such examples (at least the
simple one) in the doc would be extremely helpful to beginners.
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* Re: "Fortran" missing in "List of supported code block languages"?
2015-05-14 10:56 "Fortran" missing "in List of supported code block languages"? John Kitchin
2015-05-14 11:05 ` Rasmus
2015-05-14 12:37 ` "Fortran" missing in "List " Alain.Cochard
@ 2015-05-14 12:37 ` Alain.Cochard
2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Alain.Cochard @ 2015-05-14 12:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode; +Cc: Alain Cochard
Rasmus writes:
> > Is there an independent way of checking which languages are supported?
>
> On a file-system level you could do something like:
>
> ls /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org*/ob* | grep -i fortran
> => /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org/ob-fortran.el
>
> In Emacs you could to something like:
>
> M-x find-library ob- [TAB].
>
> There's also the apropos commands.
>
> Hope it helps,
It does, thanks.
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* Re: "Fortran" missing in "List of supported code block languages"?
2015-05-14 12:37 ` "Fortran" missing in "List " Alain.Cochard
@ 2015-05-14 14:01 ` Ista Zahn
2015-05-14 17:21 ` Thomas S. Dye
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Ista Zahn @ 2015-05-14 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: alain.cochard; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:37 AM, <Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr> wrote:
> John Kitchin writes:
>
> > Fortran is supported in the sense that you can edit a block in
> > Fortran mode. But you cannot execute a Fortran block directly
> > afaik. You have to tangle it, compile it and then run the
> > executable.
That is not true, you can in fact execute fortran blocks directly.
ob-fortran.el has been part of org since 2011. IMO it is a
documentation bug that it is not listed as a supported language.
Best,
Ista
>
> Thanks for the precision. I guess it would not hurt to mention this
> kind of details in the doc, to some extent at least.
>
> > For example like this:
> >
> > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2014/02/04/Literate-programming-example-with-Fortran-and-org-mode/
>
> Very helpful. Seems to me that having such examples (at least the
> simple one) in the doc would be extremely helpful to beginners.
>
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* Re: "Fortran" missing "in List of supported code block languages"?
2015-05-14 6:19 "Fortran" missing "in List " Alain.Cochard
@ 2015-05-14 14:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2015-05-14 14:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alain.Cochard; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hello,
Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr writes:
> The 'fortran' keyword is indeed recognized in the edit buffer, and, as
> far as I can see, everything works quite well.
>
> But I later realized that 'Fortran' is not mentioned in the list of
> supported languages, section 14.7 of the org info manual [File: org,
> Node: Languages].
Fixed. Thank you.
Perhaps because it is still in development? But if
> (As an aside note, I fail to understand why the 'Emacs Calc' language,
> with identifier 'calc', appears before 'C' in the list.
Fixed too.
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
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* Re: "Fortran" missing in "List of supported code block languages"?
2015-05-14 14:01 ` Ista Zahn
@ 2015-05-14 17:21 ` Thomas S. Dye
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2015-05-14 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ista Zahn; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist, alain.cochard
Ista Zahn <istazahn@gmail.com> writes:
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:37 AM, <Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr> wrote:
>> John Kitchin writes:
>>
>> > Fortran is supported in the sense that you can edit a block in
>> > Fortran mode. But you cannot execute a Fortran block directly
>> > afaik. You have to tangle it, compile it and then run the
>> > executable.
>
> That is not true, you can in fact execute fortran blocks directly.
> ob-fortran.el has been part of org since 2011. IMO it is a
> documentation bug that it is not listed as a supported language.
>
> Best,
> Ista
>
>>
>> Thanks for the precision. I guess it would not hurt to mention this
>> kind of details in the doc, to some extent at least.
>>
>> > For example like this:
>> >
>> > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2014/02/04/Literate-programming-example-with-Fortran-and-org-mode/
>>
>> Very helpful. Seems to me that having such examples (at least the
>> simple one) in the doc would be extremely helpful to beginners.
>>
>
>
Fortran is one of several under-documented babel languages (see
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages.html). There is a
template for users willing to start a first draft of the fortran or
other language documentation (see
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages.html#develop).
All the best,
Tom
--
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com
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