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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Cc: Tom Gillespie <tgbugs@gmail.com>,
	emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	Timothy <tecosaur@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Some commentary on the Org Syntax document
Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2021 14:30:14 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y24zbm2x.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wnkksa5j.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>

Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:

>> Maybe we can just say "... lesser elements" that cannot contain other
>> elements."? Then, we mention that some elements cannot contain objects
>> in the description of those elements.
>
> But then, you do not remove the ambiguity that is condemned in this
> thread. The greater element/element and greater element/lesser element
> distinctions are equivalent, albeit not identical.

AFAIU, elements = greater-elements ∪ lesser-elements
The current syntax draft contains section "Greater elements" defining
all the greater-elements and section "Elements" defining lesser-elements
However, the word "elements" also refers to all possible elements in
some parts of the draft.
I propose to remove the ambiguity by referring to members of
org-element-greater-elements as "greater elements"; to
org-element-all-elements - org-element-greater-elements as "lesser
elements"; and to org-element-all-elements as just "elements".

> IIUC, you want three terms for elements (I am not even talking about
> secondary strings, which can hold objects that are not part of
> contents),

Yep.

> ... and probably two for objects: terminal and non-terminal.

Sorry, I do not understand what you refer to here.

Best,
Ihor


  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-05  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-02  9:23 Some commentary on the Org Syntax document Timothy
2021-12-02 19:00 ` Tom Gillespie
2021-12-02 19:16   ` Timothy
2021-12-04  5:26     ` Tom Gillespie
2021-12-04  6:17     ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-04  6:48       ` Timothy
2021-12-04  7:40         ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-04  8:09           ` Timothy
2021-12-04  9:41           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-12-04 14:00             ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-04 14:43               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-12-05  6:30                 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2021-12-05  9:28                   ` Nicolas Goaziou

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