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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Tom Gillespie , emacs-orgmode , Timothy Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1638685763; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=S45vrsOhOCjbMJkSq054uY3MM3Bh78VJFCIqkjH6RUk=; b=PsDIqD+YWTmnHY/ovERWVH268hPdloRuDEkr/wGIxihmHL+hfd4a+ZEoaFIcZX4/kbTvvF wSsyhQkDWkpFrKoY5LOW46z5aHx2ukPJQWosO3RARZXkeUaqSHdQokxB7eckwQHif4mEM2 PHDkqe/QIEHGJQ0GG6qXHOSM+FIGgTmDWaw7oR7csHSWp15n0dnUGA8nQKd0Ur7BlztmHC hdxPkubJ0MliLHLNtC4e387eyyEwxBYjYjTLRjTXA7VwNvcX7fFFVM5bBo1ks+m/QcNtyT +TUX0hgbDkup4DQdcNV0fBwO8ZXw/UPy7o6pHWdOvbfeM63/S+ekNnUQEtMeEA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1638685763; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=fFdJal0fze+9DPtvnOpcQFQt7fqHF6iB2v1wgZItLb4DSl4c9Qye5ATcIFKhMNYAPQPcR6 vb9kt4VHci1Mz9f4j2+cBXeQZbj+yw0iaak8PrYHF40vBMQ8rLsDefBRIfOOh0DU3VmQ52 GdbfIBYRqKCWMEwfhg9trHEd6RiBStORwfygeJJ/k/VG1/7KaiZaNFxuucJs4zz/y6PbDn Jv8thWD3PVE2DXm+0QRSm/w9KjzUhpJZ6qOvHKJ2bdhr/H2JgxyJaIh0X5tzDBZYMnyMWT 3hvQMvJPZLGNzil8NCHVtNZJkSW7stfwqwh7XswO8sZf2HaxVg72UybVFi2gKg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=Vm0t87BM; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.63 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=Vm0t87BM; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 33CBC2DA05 X-Spam-Score: -3.63 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: IE2VAhPQQB6K Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> Maybe we can just say "... lesser elements" that cannot contain other >> elements."? Then, we mention that some elements cannot contain objects >> in the description of those elements. > > But then, you do not remove the ambiguity that is condemned in this > thread. The greater element/element and greater element/lesser element > distinctions are equivalent, albeit not identical. AFAIU, elements =3D greater-elements =E2=88=AA lesser-elements The current syntax draft contains section "Greater elements" defining all the greater-elements and section "Elements" defining lesser-elements However, the word "elements" also refers to all possible elements in some parts of the draft. I propose to remove the ambiguity by referring to members of org-element-greater-elements as "greater elements"; to org-element-all-elements - org-element-greater-elements as "lesser elements"; and to org-element-all-elements as just "elements". > IIUC, you want three terms for elements (I am not even talking about > secondary strings, which can hold objects that are not part of > contents), Yep. > ... and probably two for objects: terminal and non-terminal. Sorry, I do not understand what you refer to here. Best, Ihor