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From: Leo Butler <Leo.Butler@umanitoba.ca>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab@web.de>,
	Florin Boariu <florin.om@rootshell.ro>,
	"emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [TASK] Allow customizeable ditaa executable in ob-ditaa.el
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 16:26:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y1f1k4bi.fsf@t14.reltub.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zfzkvb86.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Sat, 11 Nov 2023 10:24:41 +0000")

On Sat, Nov 11 2023, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> wrote:

> Leo Butler <Leo.Butler@umanitoba.ca> writes:
>
>>> And even if we do want to add certain features in future (like
>>> supporting ditaa executable herein), it does not mean that we have to
>>> rush them by any cost.
>>
>> Ihor, I don't understand that sentence.
>>
>> The *documentation* patch was intended to show that ob-ditaa did not
>> need to be changed. A user can already run ditaa from a script file by
>> setting the customization variables appropriately (or, inappropriately,
>> as Max said ;-) ).
>
> Let me elaborate.
> The below explanation in your patch relies upon the implementation
> detail in `org-babel-execute:ditaa' - how the ditaa command is called.
> however, it can easily happen that we change that detail in future.

Thanks for your clarifications here and in a related email. 

> In fact, your explanation is already not correct for
> :file foo.eps - org-ditaa-jar-path value is ignored in such scenario:

You say `not correct', I say `mutatus mutandis'.

>
> (cmd (concat org-babel-ditaa-java-cmd
> 		      " " java " " org-ditaa-jar-option " "
> 		      (shell-quote-argument
> 		       (expand-file-name
> 			(if eps org-ditaa-eps-jar-path org-ditaa-jar-path)))
> 		      " " cmdline
> 		      " " (org-babel-process-file-name in-file)
> 		      " " (if pdf-cmd
> 			      eps-file
> 			    (org-babel-process-file-name out-file))))
>
> Further, it won't help with the discussed problem -
> trying
> (setq org-ditaa-jar-path "flatpak-spawn --host toolbox run ditaa") will
> simply fail when passed through `shell-quote-argument'.

The patch says "Users may need to use a script to run ditaa." It does
not mention passing arbitrary command strings.

>
> And now imagine that we change how CMD is produced in future. (For
> example, there is a WIP branch that unifies escaping command arguments
> to avoid vulnerabilities). Your documentation patch may cease working
> any moment, causing damage to users who tried to follow it. Or we may
> have to constrain the ways we change the internal implementation details
> in order to not break the existing documentation. Either way is not good
> and that's why I am saying no to your proposed documentation change.

Ok, I have a clearer idea of how to proceed.

Leo

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-13 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-19 10:59 org-ditaa woes Florin Boariu
2023-10-20 17:22 ` Leo Butler
2023-10-20 18:16   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-10-20 19:31     ` Leo Butler
2023-10-20 21:39   ` Florin Boariu
2023-10-21  3:50     ` Max Nikulin
2023-10-23 11:18       ` Florin Boariu
2023-10-24  7:55         ` Max Nikulin
2023-10-24  9:31           ` Florin Boariu
2023-10-24  9:38             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-25 19:00               ` Leo Butler
2023-10-26  8:44                 ` Max Nikulin
2023-10-26  9:30                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-20 18:03               ` Leo Butler
2023-12-21 14:15                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-26 15:32           ` Leo Butler
2023-10-23 12:25       ` Florin Boariu
2023-10-21  7:44     ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-10-21  8:56       ` [TASK] Allow customizeable ditaa executable in ob-ditaa.el (was: org-ditaa woes) Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-09  3:17         ` [TASK] Allow customizeable ditaa executable in ob-ditaa.el Leo Butler
2023-11-09 12:17           ` Max Nikulin
2023-11-10  3:19             ` Leo Butler
2023-11-10 10:09               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-10 10:38               ` Max Nikulin
2023-11-10 15:21                 ` Leo Butler
2023-11-11 10:07                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-10 10:18           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-10 14:59             ` Leo Butler
2023-11-11 10:24               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-13 16:26                 ` Leo Butler [this message]
2023-11-15 11:12           ` Formatting worg code examples (was: Re: [TASK] Allow customizeable ditaa executable in ob-ditaa.el) Max Nikulin

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