* Re: Re: Html export suggestion (use of <div>)
2007-10-06 8:25 ` cezar
@ 2007-10-08 20:00 ` Mike Newman
2007-10-08 21:04 ` William Henney
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From: Mike Newman @ 2007-10-08 20:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:25:00 +0300
cezar@mixandgo.ro wrote:
> I have not yet used this feature, but I am working with html/css all
> day, so here is my opinion:
>
> 1. You shouldn't use more divs than you need to, and you don't need
> them.
>
Why (I'm sure there's a good reason)?
> 2. You shouldn't use divs for presentation's sake. Why not make each
> subsection a different class or sumthin.
>
Why?
> 3. I think the way it's handled right now is better than your example.
>
> Cheers,
> Cezar
>
>
>
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* Re: Re: Html export suggestion (use of <div>)
2007-10-06 8:25 ` cezar
2007-10-08 20:00 ` Mike Newman
@ 2007-10-08 21:04 ` William Henney
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From: William Henney @ 2007-10-08 21:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cezar@mixandgo.ro; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On 10/6/07, cezar@mixandgo.ro <cezar@mixandgo.ro> wrote:
> Mike Newman <mike@newmanfamily.me.uk> writes:
>
> > I had wondered if there was any value in wrapping the html export in
> > <div> </div> sections to match the structure of the org file.
> >
[ snip ]
> I have not yet used this feature, but I am working with html/css all
> day, so here is my opinion:
>
> 1. You shouldn't use more divs than you need to, and you don't need
> them.
>
The trouble is, it is currently not possible to wrap a section in a
<div> when you _do_ need it. At least, I tried to do this with @<div>
... @</div> and it produces incorrectly nested tags for the case when
an org heading is mapped onto an html list item (e.g., <div
class="foo"><li>Contents of org section</div></li>). This is because
the closing </div> is interpreted as being inside the section, rather
than outside it.
> 2. You shouldn't use divs for presentation's sake. Why not make each
> subsection a different class or sumthin.
>
How would that work without divs? The problem is (I think) that
sometimes an org section is represented in html as a header plus
following text:
<h3>HEADER TEXT</h3>
<p>BODY TEXT</p>
<p>MORE BODY TEXT</p>
whereas sometimes it is represented as a list item:
<li>HEADER TEXT<br>BODY TEXT</li>.
So, in the first case one cannot apply a class to the whole section,
since there is no enclosing HTML element. In the second place, you
don't have that problem, but now it is impossible to apply a class to
just the header.
What would be nice would be if there was an option for (some) tags to
be applied as classes in the exported html.
Cheers
Will
--
Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia
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* Re: Re: Html export suggestion (use of <div>)
@ 2007-10-10 13:31 cezar
2007-10-10 14:36 ` cezar
2007-10-15 18:45 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: cezar @ 2007-10-10 13:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
> I have no opinion and no knowledge to decide this question - please
> work it out among yourselves and tell me what needs to be done.
>
> Thanks.
>
>>> How would that work without divs? The problem is (I think) that
>>> sometimes an org section is represented in html as a header plus
>>> following text:
>>>
>>> <h3>HEADER TEXT</h3>
>>> <p>BODY TEXT</p>
>>> <p>MORE BODY TEXT</p>
I thing this ^^^ is good but should have the category name as a class
like this:
<h3 class="work">
Header here
</h3>
<p class="work">
normal text
</p>
<p class="work">
some more text
</p>
<h3 class="school">
Header here
</h3>
<p class="school">
normal text
</p>
<p class="school">
some more text
</p>
Also a div should be optional for those who need it, so the whole
category can be wraped in a <div class="category"></div> like this:
<div class="work">
<h3 class="work">
Header here
</h3>
<p class="work">
normal text
</p>
<p class="work">
some more text
</p>
</div>
<div class="school">
<h3 class="school">
Header here
</h3>
<p class="school">
normal text
</p>
<p class="school">
some more text
</p>
</div>
Maybe by using a tag or something !
Cheers,
Cezar
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* Re: Html export suggestion (use of <div>)
2007-10-10 13:31 Re: Html export suggestion (use of <div>) cezar
@ 2007-10-10 14:36 ` cezar
2007-10-15 18:45 ` Carsten Dominik
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: cezar @ 2007-10-10 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
cezar@mixandgo.ro writes:
> Also a div should be optional for those who need it, so the whole
> category can be wraped in a <div class="category"></div> like this:
>
>
> <div class="work">
> <h3 class="work">
> Header here
> </h3>
> <p class="work">
> normal text
> </p>
> <p class="work">
> some more text
> </p>
> </div>
>
> <div class="school">
> <h3 class="school">
> Header here
> </h3>
> <p class="school">
> normal text
> </p>
> <p class="school">
> some more text
> </p>
> </div>
>
> Maybe by using a tag or something !
>
Actually in this case, we don't need the class on each element, just the
div:
<div class="school">
<h3>
Header here
</h3>
<p>
normal text
</p>
<p>
some more text
</p>
</div>
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* Re: Re: Html export suggestion (use of <div>)
2007-10-10 13:31 Re: Html export suggestion (use of <div>) cezar
2007-10-10 14:36 ` cezar
@ 2007-10-15 18:45 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-10-15 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cezar; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Cezar,
I am not sure if this is intended as being the answer on my request,
but it seems to be not. What I would need to change this
is an agreed position between the people discussing here,
telling me exactly what I am not doing right yet in exporting
headlines and sections into HTML, if there should be classes,
what kind of classes, where exactly.
For example,
>>
>>>> How would that work without divs? The problem is (I think) that
>>>> sometimes an org section is represented in html as a header plus
>>>> following text:
>>>>
>>>> <h3>HEADER TEXT</h3>
>>>> <p>BODY TEXT</p>
>>>> <p>MORE BODY TEXT</p>
Yes exactly! This is exactly how I view a header and a section.
I am coming from LaTeX, and this is how it works there. A section
is not a closed element, instead it continues until the next section.
Is this different in HTML? How is it different? Please educate me
if you (or someone else) wants this differently.
- Carsten
On Oct 10, 2007, at 15:31, cezar@mixandgo.ro wrote:
>
> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>
>> I have no opinion and no knowledge to decide this question - please
>> work it out among yourselves and tell me what needs to be done.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>>> How would that work without divs? The problem is (I think) that
>>>> sometimes an org section is represented in html as a header plus
>>>> following text:
>>>>
>>>> <h3>HEADER TEXT</h3>
>>>> <p>BODY TEXT</p>
>>>> <p>MORE BODY TEXT</p>
>
> I thing this ^^^ is good but should have the category name as a class
> like this:
>
> <h3 class="work">
> Header here
> </h3>
> <p class="work">
> normal text
> </p>
> <p class="work">
> some more text
> </p>
>
> <h3 class="school">
> Header here
> </h3>
> <p class="school">
> normal text
> </p>
> <p class="school">
> some more text
> </p>
>
> Also a div should be optional for those who need it, so the whole
> category can be wraped in a <div class="category"></div> like this:
>
>
> <div class="work">
> <h3 class="work">
> Header here
> </h3>
> <p class="work">
> normal text
> </p>
> <p class="work">
> some more text
> </p>
> </div>
>
> <div class="school">
> <h3 class="school">
> Header here
> </h3>
> <p class="school">
> normal text
> </p>
> <p class="school">
> some more text
> </p>
> </div>
>
> Maybe by using a tag or something !
>
>
> Cheers,
> Cezar
>
>
>
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>
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