From: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 19:11:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vbm56b2q.fsf@gmx.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87ppcd3iqj.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr
Hi,
Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:
>> I—obviously—think what I propose is better than what we have now. Let's
>> go through the current functionality.
>
> In this case I value simplicity over complexity (or "smartness",
> whatever you call it). Anyone, including newcomers, should be able to
> use M-RET without knowing about (affiliated) keywords, or be bothered
> with them.
"Newcomers" ain't stupid. My guess is it would feel very intuitive to
be able to repeat e.g. LATEX_HEADINGs.
> Also, headlines are first-class citizens in Org. Keybindings acting on
> them shouldn't be bothered with other citizens.
But "* #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{foo}" or whatever is possibly the
most useless headline in the history of Org. . .
>> I don't find it complicated at all. . . It's DWIM!
>
> I understand your DWIM argument. But we're talking about one of the most
> central keybindings in Org, much like C-c C-c. Except I do not consider
> C-c C-c as a usability model. Also, C-c C-c is not really dedicated to
> headlines.
I guess I mainly use C-c C-c for tags. I don't know what else it's used
for (without looking at the code). . .
>> The fact that `org-table-wrap-region' is bound to M-RET is the reason
>> I'd bind `org-insert-keyword' to M-RET. . .
>
> I really don't understand the reason behind binding
> `org-table-wrap-region'
> (how often do you use that?) on M-RET.
Very rarely. I obviously use M-RET all the time for items and
headlines. `org-table-wrap-region' seems like a solution looking for a
problem.
>> Anyway, do we have /another/ key that these two functions could be
>> migrated to?
>
> There is `org-table-copy-down' bound to S-RET. The idea is similar.
That seems less crowded. In fact it doesn't work outside of tables ATM.
Still, I think overload M-RET is more intuitive, but I fear our opinions
will fail to converge.
—Rasmus
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-23 18:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-19 14:41 [Prelim. patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords Rasmus
2014-11-22 1:23 ` [patch] " Rasmus
2014-11-22 9:52 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-22 12:19 ` Rasmus Pank Roulund
2014-11-22 19:26 ` Rasmus
2014-11-22 21:57 ` Thierry Banel
2014-11-22 23:20 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-23 11:08 ` Thierry Banel
2014-11-23 16:54 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-23 17:15 ` Rasmus
2014-11-23 17:54 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-23 18:11 ` Rasmus [this message]
2014-11-23 21:13 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-23 21:54 ` Rasmus
2014-11-25 9:00 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-25 10:12 ` M-RET vs C-RET Sebastien Vauban
2014-11-25 11:09 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-25 11:16 ` Rasmus
2014-11-26 23:50 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-27 0:55 ` Rasmus
2014-11-27 9:19 ` Andreas Leha
2014-11-23 17:00 ` [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords Rasmus
2014-11-23 17:46 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-22 13:53 ` [Prelim. patch] " Thierry Banel
2014-11-22 14:31 ` Rasmus
2014-11-22 17:09 ` Thierry Banel
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