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From: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 22:54:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a93h60s3.fsf@gmx.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878uj139k1.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (Nicolas Goaziou's message of "Sun, 23 Nov 2014 22:13:02 +0100")

Hi,

Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:

>> Still, I think overload M-RET is more intuitive,
>
> "Intuitiveness" is in the eye of the beholder... 

Clearly.

> Maybe some users will not find intuitive that M-RET usually inserts a
> headline... unless it is in a plain list, in which case it inserts an
> item... oh wait, if it is at a keyword it can duplicate it... but,
> wait, it doesn't happen for every keyword... ah! and in source blocks
> it...

Not to forget tables. . .

>> but I fear our opinions will fail to converge.
>
> If you want to convince me, show me that this binding makes Org simpler
> to use, or, at least, equally simple. Until then, I stand on my ground.

This is a Sisyphean task.  Even if a number of participants of this ML
would chime in, we would still not know whether it would confuse or
benefit new users.

From my point of view, we can make every function tied to M-RET beyond
`org-insert-headline' configurable and turned off by default.  This may,
however, also add confusion ("why did M-RET work in X's Org but not in
mine...").

At this point, I doubt I can add novel, useful inputs to the discussion.

Cheers,
Rasmus

-- 
And I faced endless streams of vendor-approved Ikea furniture. . .

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-23 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-19 14:41 [Prelim. patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords Rasmus
2014-11-22  1:23 ` [patch] " Rasmus
2014-11-22  9:52   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-22 12:19     ` Rasmus Pank Roulund
2014-11-22 19:26       ` Rasmus
2014-11-22 21:57         ` Thierry Banel
2014-11-22 23:20         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-23 11:08           ` Thierry Banel
2014-11-23 16:54             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-23 17:15               ` Rasmus
2014-11-23 17:54                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-23 18:11                   ` Rasmus
2014-11-23 21:13                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-23 21:54                       ` Rasmus [this message]
2014-11-25  9:00                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-25 10:12                           ` M-RET vs C-RET Sebastien Vauban
2014-11-25 11:09                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-25 11:16                             ` Rasmus
2014-11-26 23:50                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-27  0:55                                 ` Rasmus
2014-11-27  9:19                                   ` Andreas Leha
2014-11-23 17:00           ` [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords Rasmus
2014-11-23 17:46             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-22 13:53 ` [Prelim. patch] " Thierry Banel
2014-11-22 14:31   ` Rasmus
2014-11-22 17:09     ` Thierry Banel

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