Re: Orgmode and Unicode characters

From: "Eric Schulte" <schulte.eric@gmail.com>
To: Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <darcamo@gmail.com>
Cc: Dov Grobgeld <dov.grobgeld@gmail.com>,
	emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Orgmode and Unicode characters
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 07:58:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tyiruex2.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4cfcf421.0e3f970a.5d5c.fffff5c2@mx.google.com> (Darlan Cavalcante Moreira's message of "Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:32:59 -0300")

My only worry on this front is that I know how to type "|" and "-" for
tables, and how to type "*" for headings, but I don't have an easy way
to type utf8 characters.

If Org-mode starts using exotic utf8 characters which can not easily be
typed from outside of Org-mode then it loses some of the "it's all plain
text" appeal.

I agree with Darlan that something using Emacs display functionality
(like used by org-pretty-entities) could be preferable because it would
preserve the underlying text.

Best -- Eric

Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <darcamo@gmail.com> writes:

> If changing the actual character in the file is be the best option (maybe
> it could cause problems for the exporters), then an approach similar to
> org-pretty-entities could be used for this.
>
> --
> Darlan
>
> At Mon, 6 Dec 2010 11:19:55 +0200,
> Dov Grobgeld <dov.grobgeld@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Even though this announcement looks very cool, this again reminded me of
>> something I've been thinking off when using orgmode. And that is the use of
>> unicode characters. With the latest versions of emacs that support unicode
>> and with rich fonts such as DejaVu Monospace, it is as easy to use unicode
>> characters as ascii. What I was thinking of is that the current ascii
>> graphics of e.g. tables could automatically be switched to box drawing
>> characters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box-drawing_characters) when
>> pressing C-c or Tab. Other characters that could be used are automatic
>> replacement of leading asterisks to various bullets. Each indentation level
>> could be given a different bullets. E.g. "*"==▸, "**"==●, etc. I'm sure that
>> arrows and various brackets may also be useful for various contexts.
>> 
>> Of course the use of these characters would be configurable and would be
>> turned off automatically for buffers that are not UTF-8 encoded.
>> 
>> Perhaps I'll one day learn the inner workings of org-mode sufficiently to do
>> this myself, but if there is someone who meanwhile wants to pick up the
>> idea, you're welcome!
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dov
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 09:05, Nathan Neff <nathan.neff@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Much easier to read, and I love the nesting/indenting of
>> > sub-headings.
>> >
>> > http://nateneff.com/   - Need to understand org-mode-clockreport-rules.html<http://nateneff.com/org-mode-clockreport-rules.html>
>> >
>> > --Nate
>> >
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