Re: Orgmode and Unicode characters

From: Dan Davison <dandavison7@gmail.com>
To: Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gmail.com>
Cc: Dov Grobgeld <dov.grobgeld@gmail.com>,
	emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Orgmode and Unicode characters
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:36:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hbeqeojr.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tyiruex2.fsf@gmail.com> (Eric Schulte's message of "Mon, 06 Dec 2010 07:58:01 -0700")

"Eric Schulte" <schulte.eric@gmail.com> writes:

> My only worry on this front is that I know how to type "|" and "-" for
> tables, and how to type "*" for headings, but I don't have an easy way
> to type utf8 characters.
>
> If Org-mode starts using exotic utf8 characters which can not easily be
> typed from outside of Org-mode then it loses some of the "it's all plain
> text" appeal.
>
> I agree with Darlan that something using Emacs display functionality
> (like used by org-pretty-entities) could be preferable because it would

Hi Eric,

I've never quite understood how the pretty entities stuff works. Is it
related to text (display) properties or overlays? Would you mind giving
a quick explanation?

Dan

> preserve the underlying text.
>
> Best -- Eric
>
> Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <darcamo@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> If changing the actual character in the file is be the best option (maybe
>> it could cause problems for the exporters), then an approach similar to
>> org-pretty-entities could be used for this.
>>
>> --
>> Darlan
>>
>> At Mon, 6 Dec 2010 11:19:55 +0200,
>> Dov Grobgeld <dov.grobgeld@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Even though this announcement looks very cool, this again reminded me of
>>> something I've been thinking off when using orgmode. And that is the use of
>>> unicode characters. With the latest versions of emacs that support unicode
>>> and with rich fonts such as DejaVu Monospace, it is as easy to use unicode
>>> characters as ascii. What I was thinking of is that the current ascii
>>> graphics of e.g. tables could automatically be switched to box drawing
>>> characters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box-drawing_characters) when
>>> pressing C-c or Tab. Other characters that could be used are automatic
>>> replacement of leading asterisks to various bullets. Each indentation level
>>> could be given a different bullets. E.g. "*"==▸, "**"==●, etc. I'm sure that
>>> arrows and various brackets may also be useful for various contexts.
>>> 
>>> Of course the use of these characters would be configurable and would be
>>> turned off automatically for buffers that are not UTF-8 encoded.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps I'll one day learn the inner workings of org-mode sufficiently to do
>>> this myself, but if there is someone who meanwhile wants to pick up the
>>> idea, you're welcome!
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dov
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 09:05, Nathan Neff <nathan.neff@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Much easier to read, and I love the nesting/indenting of
>>> > sub-headings.
>>> >
>>> > http://nateneff.com/   - Need to understand org-mode-clockreport-rules.html<http://nateneff.com/org-mode-clockreport-rules.html>
>>> >
>>> > --Nate
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>> > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>> > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>> > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>> >
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode