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From: Eric Schulte <eric.schulte@gmx.com>
To: Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org-mode release 7.9
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:01:14 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87txvi3myt.fsf@gmx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pq67uev7.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:54:04 +0200")

Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> writes:

> Bastien writes:
>> Are you both talking about the same thing?  
>
> I'm not sure, but we'll find out.
>
>> (I use ELPA* to denote other ELPA archives than GNU ELPA.)
>>
>> If this is about a org-*.tar ELPA* package containing both
>> *core* and *contrib*, I disagree.
>>
>> If this is about a org-contrib*.tar ELPA* (or wherever), I
>> agree.
>
> I was talking about the hypothetical possibility to offer another
> archive that is compatible with package manager and either packages Org
> including contrib or just contrib (so that it could be installed
> alongside the "normal" Org ELPA archive).
>
> Of these two options the first (canned Org + contrib/ in a single
> archive) is considerably easier to implement since all autoload
> dependencies are kept inside the same install.
>

This first option of a combined org+contrib package in a non-GNU ELPA*
does sound like the easiest to implement and most likely to succeed (for
the reasons Achim mentions above).  Is there a downside to such a
combined package which I am missing?

Perhaps such a package could be called org-w-contrib or more simply
org-contrib.

>
>> Hopefully we can define dependencies for packages living on
>> different ELPA* serveurs -- can someone confirm this?
>
> I don't think that's possible if I understand what you're asking.  When
> you configure multiple servers the package manager will treat all
> packages the same, you can't prefer packages on one server over another
> AFAIK — it choses the one with the highest version if the same package
> is offered from multiple sources.
>

Confirmed, when specifying a dependency you are only allowed to give the
name and the minimum version number.  Which server the package is
downloaded from is undefined.

>
>> If we are sure we can have a org-contrib in ELPA* that knows what org it
>> should rely on GNU ELPA, then let's go ahead with such package.
>
> That on the other hand would be possible if we find a way to sort out
> the autoloads maze.  But we might avoid that problem altogether if we
> simply offer the Org+contrib package on orgmode.org and tell people to
> download it and then issue "M-x package-install-file".
>

Assuming that simply specifying org as a dependency of org-contrib is
insufficient, then I would think that this combined install would be the
way to go.

Best,

>
>
> Regards,
> Achim.

-- 
Eric Schulte
http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-31 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-24 15:48 Bastien
2012-08-24 15:56 ` Russell Adams
2012-08-24 16:12 ` Rainer Thiel
2012-08-24 16:18   ` Bastien
2012-08-24 17:32   ` Bastien
2012-08-24 20:22   ` Jude DaShiell
2012-08-24 17:04 ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-08-24 17:31   ` Bastien
2012-08-24 21:39     ` Eric Schulte
2012-08-25  7:41       ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-25  9:16         ` Bastien
2012-08-25  9:17       ` Bastien
2012-08-25 19:00     ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-08-24 17:38 ` Igor Sosa Mayor
2012-08-24 20:01 ` Rasmus
2012-08-25  9:27   ` Bastien
2012-08-25  9:37 ` Moritz Ulrich
2012-08-25  9:38   ` Bastien
2012-08-25 14:06 ` François Allisson
2012-08-25 14:17 ` Torsten Wagner
2012-08-26 15:12 ` Robert Horn
2012-08-26 16:10   ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-28 17:47     ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-29 18:00       ` Bastien
2012-08-29 18:14         ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-29 18:18           ` Bastien
2012-08-29 23:40         ` Robert Horn
2012-08-30  5:46           ` Bastien
2012-08-30 16:52             ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-30 18:35               ` Eric Schulte
2012-08-30 19:10                 ` Ivan Andrus
2012-08-30 19:14                   ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2012-08-31  7:43                 ` Bastien
2012-08-31 17:54                   ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-31 19:01                     ` Eric Schulte [this message]
2012-08-31 19:09                       ` Nick Dokos
2012-09-02  8:34                     ` Bastien
2012-09-09 10:35                       ` Achim Gratz
2012-09-09 11:19                         ` Jambunathan K
2012-09-09 11:21                           ` Jambunathan K
2012-09-16  7:37                           ` Achim Gratz
2012-09-14  6:21                         ` Bastien
2012-09-15 18:18                           ` Achim Gratz
2012-09-15 19:50                             ` Eric Schulte
2012-09-15 20:15                               ` Achim Gratz
2012-09-16 14:22                                 ` Eric Schulte
2012-09-16 15:22                                   ` Achim Gratz
2012-09-17 17:36                                     ` Eric Schulte
2012-09-17 18:31                                       ` Achim Gratz
2012-09-18 12:31                                         ` Eric Schulte
2012-09-18 19:37                                           ` Achim Gratz
2012-09-19 17:25                                       ` Bastien
2012-09-19 17:24                             ` Bastien
2012-09-19 18:14                               ` Achim Gratz
2012-09-19 22:43                                 ` Bastien
2012-09-20 18:57                                   ` Achim Gratz
2012-09-21 15:30                                     ` Bastien
2012-09-21 17:54                                       ` Eric Schulte
2012-09-24 17:18                                         ` Achim Gratz
2012-09-24 17:47                                           ` Bastien
2012-09-26 17:21                                           ` Bastien
2012-09-26 18:22                                             ` Achim Gratz
2012-09-26 21:47                                               ` Bastien
2012-09-27  5:57                                                 ` Achim Gratz
2012-09-27  8:08                                                   ` Bastien
2012-09-27 18:38                                                   ` Achim Gratz
2012-09-27 22:14                                                     ` Bastien
2012-09-02 19:28                     ` Jambunathan K
2012-09-02 19:34                       ` Jambunathan K
2012-09-02 20:49                         ` Bastien
2012-09-04 22:29                         ` Eric Schulte
2012-09-05  6:19                           ` ELPA/org-export + org-e-* Jambunathan K
2012-09-04 22:27                       ` Org-mode release 7.9 Eric Schulte
2012-09-05  6:04                         ` ELPA/org-export + org-e-* Jambunathan K
2012-08-27 22:54   ` Org-mode release 7.9 Manuel Batsching
2012-08-26  2:18 James Harkins

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