* issue w/ org-ref setup: C-c ] works, but C-u C-C ] not
@ 2016-06-11 16:44 Andreas Reuleaux
2016-06-11 17:23 ` John Kitchin
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Reuleaux @ 2016-06-11 16:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
I have used org-ref in the past and I liked it,
now I am trying to get it working again.
In a way this has become easier:
* I can install org-ref from Melpa now, instead of
tangling from the org-ref.org file in the past
* with a fairly simple setup (omitting the details for now,
but can give them of course), and the default
(setq org-ref-completion-library 'org-ref-helm-bibtex)
I get to chose my papers/books to cite in a quite comfortable way
when I press C-c ]
But what does not currently work for me (and what used to work):
getting a choice of citation: cite/citep/citeauthor/nocite/whatever.
Basically I want
* a list to choose from in the first place
* preferrably have my own list of choices, allowing me to focus on the
ones that I really do use (not get distracted by other more exotic
ones), and that what I can also switch on a per document basis
between bitex/natbib/biblatex and the available options there
I know that org-ref is relying on reftex in this regard,
and when I just use plain reftex, or even (require 'org-ref-reftex),
I get to chose cite/citep/citeauthor etc., but I loose the comfort
of the org-ref-helm-bibtex input method.
Ideally - I guess I am dreaming - I would want to rely
on ivy (or helm) for narrowing down my choice of cite/citep/citeauthor
etc - rather than type some retex keystroke.
I got some help from this list in past, how to configure my reftex
list of choices, to use biblatex entries: parencite etc. - thanks again,
and can go through these old emails of mine of course, but I am not
sure in how far these things still apply, given that org-ref has
changed quite a lot in between. Also at the time, I was at least
presented some menu when I typed C-u C-c ] - so it was just a matter
of modifying that menu, now I only get to see "pattern:" in the minibuffer.
Thanks,
Andreas
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* Re: issue w/ org-ref setup: C-c ] works, but C-u C-C ] not
2016-06-11 16:44 issue w/ org-ref setup: C-c ] works, but C-u C-C ] not Andreas Reuleaux
@ 2016-06-11 17:23 ` John Kitchin
2016-06-11 18:02 ` Andreas Reuleaux
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: John Kitchin @ 2016-06-11 17:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Reuleaux; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Andreas Reuleaux writes:
> I have used org-ref in the past and I liked it,
> now I am trying to get it working again.
> In a way this has become easier:
>
> * I can install org-ref from Melpa now, instead of
> tangling from the org-ref.org file in the past
>
> * with a fairly simple setup (omitting the details for now,
> but can give them of course), and the default
>
> (setq org-ref-completion-library 'org-ref-helm-bibtex)
>
> I get to chose my papers/books to cite in a quite comfortable way
> when I press C-c ]
>
> But what does not currently work for me (and what used to work):
> getting a choice of citation: cite/citep/citeauthor/nocite/whatever.
To get this, you press C-u enter on the candidate you select, and that
should give you a new helm selection for citation type. This is
currently only possible in the helm backend. I am not sure if it can be
done with ivy yet.
> Basically I want
>
> * a list to choose from in the first place
>
> * preferrably have my own list of choices, allowing me to focus on the
> ones that I really do use (not get distracted by other more exotic
> ones), and that what I can also switch on a per document basis
> between bitex/natbib/biblatex and the available options there
You can customize org-ref-cite-types for this. Make it shorter, a local
var, etc...
>
> I know that org-ref is relying on reftex in this regard,
> and when I just use plain reftex, or even (require 'org-ref-reftex),
> I get to chose cite/citep/citeauthor etc., but I loose the comfort
> of the org-ref-helm-bibtex input method.
>
> Ideally - I guess I am dreaming - I would want to rely
> on ivy (or helm) for narrowing down my choice of cite/citep/citeauthor
> etc - rather than type some retex keystroke.
>
> I got some help from this list in past, how to configure my reftex
> list of choices, to use biblatex entries: parencite etc. - thanks again,
> and can go through these old emails of mine of course, but I am not
> sure in how far these things still apply, given that org-ref has
> changed quite a lot in between. Also at the time, I was at least
> presented some menu when I typed C-u C-c ] - so it was just a matter
I think C-u C-c ] will give a list of labels to make a ref link to.
Maybe you don't have any labels, so it looks empty.
> of modifying that menu, now I only get to see "pattern:" in the minibuffer.
>
> Thanks,
> Andreas
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* Re: issue w/ org-ref setup: C-c ] works, but C-u C-C ] not
2016-06-11 17:23 ` John Kitchin
@ 2016-06-11 18:02 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2016-06-12 2:26 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2016-06-16 23:28 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Reuleaux @ 2016-06-11 18:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
John - thanks for your fast reply, and I am learning:
didn't know that it should be possible to C-u on the candidate
selected - still: it's not working for me (yet), - I assume the error
is on my side, but I need more time to find it: start out from a fresh,
barely nothing config maybe, will get back, in case I get lost.
-Andreas
John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Andreas Reuleaux writes:
>
>> I have used org-ref in the past and I liked it,
>> now I am trying to get it working again.
>> In a way this has become easier:
>>
>> * I can install org-ref from Melpa now, instead of
>> tangling from the org-ref.org file in the past
>>
>> * with a fairly simple setup (omitting the details for now,
>> but can give them of course), and the default
>>
>> (setq org-ref-completion-library 'org-ref-helm-bibtex)
>>
>> I get to chose my papers/books to cite in a quite comfortable way
>> when I press C-c ]
>>
>> But what does not currently work for me (and what used to work):
>> getting a choice of citation: cite/citep/citeauthor/nocite/whatever.
>
> To get this, you press C-u enter on the candidate you select, and that
> should give you a new helm selection for citation type. This is
> currently only possible in the helm backend. I am not sure if it can be
> done with ivy yet.
>
>> Basically I want
>>
>> * a list to choose from in the first place
>>
>> * preferrably have my own list of choices, allowing me to focus on the
>> ones that I really do use (not get distracted by other more exotic
>> ones), and that what I can also switch on a per document basis
>> between bitex/natbib/biblatex and the available options there
>
> You can customize org-ref-cite-types for this. Make it shorter, a local
> var, etc...
>
>>
>> I know that org-ref is relying on reftex in this regard,
>> and when I just use plain reftex, or even (require 'org-ref-reftex),
>> I get to chose cite/citep/citeauthor etc., but I loose the comfort
>> of the org-ref-helm-bibtex input method.
>>
>> Ideally - I guess I am dreaming - I would want to rely
>> on ivy (or helm) for narrowing down my choice of cite/citep/citeauthor
>> etc - rather than type some retex keystroke.
>>
>> I got some help from this list in past, how to configure my reftex
>> list of choices, to use biblatex entries: parencite etc. - thanks again,
>> and can go through these old emails of mine of course, but I am not
>> sure in how far these things still apply, given that org-ref has
>> changed quite a lot in between. Also at the time, I was at least
>> presented some menu when I typed C-u C-c ] - so it was just a matter
>
> I think C-u C-c ] will give a list of labels to make a ref link to.
> Maybe you don't have any labels, so it looks empty.
>
>> of modifying that menu, now I only get to see "pattern:" in the minibuffer.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andreas
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* Re: issue w/ org-ref setup: C-c ] works, but C-u C-C ] not
2016-06-11 17:23 ` John Kitchin
2016-06-11 18:02 ` Andreas Reuleaux
@ 2016-06-12 2:26 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2016-06-16 23:28 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Reuleaux @ 2016-06-12 2:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Thanks again,
John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>> But what does not currently work for me (and what used to work):
>> getting a choice of citation: cite/citep/citeauthor/nocite/whatever.
>
> To get this, you press C-u enter on the candidate you select, and that
> should give you a new helm selection for citation type. This is
> currently only possible in the helm backend. I am not sure if it can be
> done with ivy yet.
still can't get that to work, sorry, giving up for now, ie. resorting
to org w/ plain old reftex.
> I think C-u C-c ] will give a list of labels to make a ref link to.
> Maybe you don't have any labels, so it looks empty.
This is fine now, that I have some links
Thanks anyway,
Andreas
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* Re: issue w/ org-ref setup: C-c ] works, but C-u C-C ] not
2016-06-11 17:23 ` John Kitchin
2016-06-11 18:02 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2016-06-12 2:26 ` Andreas Reuleaux
@ 2016-06-16 23:28 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Reuleaux @ 2016-06-16 23:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
I gave it another try, and I got it finally!
I have to press C-u and then return (not just C-u),
then the helm menu to chose the citation type pops up
Thanks again,
Andreas
John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Andreas Reuleaux writes:
>
>> But what does not currently work for me (and what used to work):
>> getting a choice of citation: cite/citep/citeauthor/nocite/whatever.
>
> To get this, you press C-u enter on the candidate you select, and that
> should give you a new helm selection for citation type. This is
> currently only possible in the helm backend. I am not sure if it can be
> done with ivy yet.
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