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From: Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com>
To: Dmitrii Korobeinikov <dim1212k@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: org-clock misleading description for a prompt option
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 21:40:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tv1r81fc.fsf@kyleam.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+Yh0SSqsZbP8xo4WBnySTtjXxN-LOvCUQtc11=Hb4vAQookmw@mail.gmail.com>

Dmitrii Korobeinikov <dim1212k@gmail.com> writes:

>> That seems confusing to me as well (at least being the not-advanced
>> clocker that I am).  I suspect the confusion comes from the different
>> perspective from which it's written.  You're talking about restarting
>> Emacs and clocking in again; the description is, I think, written
>> assuming the context of the prompt being triggered due to idle time.  In
>> that scenario, hitting i/q or 'k => all' have the same effect; a new
>> entry is not created.
>
> I am not sure I follow. Is idle time some sort of concept used by
> org-clock for something more than the interface explanations?

Yes, see

    (info "(org)Resolving idle time")

Even if you don't customize org-clock-idle-time, the option mentioned in
the second paragraph of that page, you can trigger that prompt manually
to account for being idle by calling org-resolve-clocks (bound to 'C-c
C-x C-z' by default).

> Whether I restart emacs or purposefully insert (while no clocks are
> running) `CLOCK: [2020-04-10 Fri 22:43]' into a logbook and do
> org-clock-in, the behaviour is the same.

Right.  I'd say that falls into the same category as the restart.  The
key, as you mention, it that there is no clock running (versus a clock
running with idle time to account for).

> Also, 'k => all' is not an
> option for me, it just asks for a number, defaulting to the elapsed
> time. Perhaps it's because I am running an older version of org-mode
> (9.3.6.)

Sorry for the unclear shorthand.  I just meant "hit k, select the
default value to keep all idle time".


  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-10 21:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-09 10:41 org-clock misleading description for a prompt option Dmitrii Korobeinikov
2020-04-10  4:47 ` Kyle Meyer
2020-04-10 16:57   ` Dmitrii Korobeinikov
2020-04-10 21:40     ` Kyle Meyer [this message]
2020-04-11 10:12       ` Dmitrii Korobeinikov

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