* compiling org without make
@ 2010-09-26 11:27 Gez
2010-09-26 17:20 ` Gez
2010-09-26 17:27 ` Sebastian Rose
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From: Gez @ 2010-09-26 11:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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I'm a beginner on windows and I'm prepared to learn slowly and steadily, but I'm having trouble getting started. I have GNU Emacs 23.2.1 and I'd like to get the latest version of orgmode (my version has no org-capture). I see from http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.php#compiling-org-without-make that this problem has been addressed, but I'm still not clear on what to do...
1. How I find out which version of orgmode I have? I'm assuming from http://orgmode.org/ that it's 6.21b, but is there a way of confirming this?
2. Do I need to compile at all? At least in order to get started learning and using it?
3. Whether or not I compile, how do I "install" the downloaded org-mode files? Should I just copy them into \emacs-23.2\lisp\org (where my org lisp files are now) and let them overwrite where necessary?
3. In the example path in the function on http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.php#compiling-org-without-make, the org-lisp-directory is under .emacs.d but my org files are under \emacs-23.2\lisp\org - does this matter?
4. Assuming the path is ok as it is, how do I enter the path into the function - do I write the whole path - e.g. Q:\progs\emacs-23.2\lisp\org ?
5. What option should I choose for org-compile-sources in the function? (I don't know what it means.)
6. Finally, how do I use this function? Do I write it to my .emacs and then call it? What is the command?
Sorry for all the questions. I hope I've been clear.
Gez
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* Re: compiling org without make
2010-09-26 11:27 compiling org without make Gez
@ 2010-09-26 17:20 ` Gez
2010-09-26 17:27 ` Sebastian Rose
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From: Gez @ 2010-09-26 17:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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I got it working, thanks to an offlist message from Don - copied with permission below...
Gez
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Davison" <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk>
To: "Gez" <register@geekanddiva.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: compiling org without make
> Hi Gez,
>
> It is possible to use the latest version of Org mode very easily,
> without compiling or installing to system folders. I just posted example
> instructions in another thread; the link to that thread is
>
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/30973
>
> With this method, the info files in emacs will be out-of-date. Full
> installation is covered in section 1.2 of the manual:
>
> http://orgmode.org/manual/Installation.html#Installation
>
> But here are the instructions I posted:
>
> 1. Download the latest version
> .zip and .tar.gz version are kept at
> http://orgmode.org/org-latest.zip
> http://orgmode.org/org-latest.tar.gz
>
> 2. Extract the archived files
> This will create a folder called "org-mode". Let's say that the
> location of this folder is "~/path/to/org-mode" (for Windows see
> footnote [1])
>
> 3. Add the following lines to your .emacs file (note that we're pointing
> to the "lisp" folder *within* the main "org-mode" folder):
>
> (setq load-path (cons "~/path/to/org-mode/lisp" load-path)
> (require 'org-install)
>
> That's it. However, this will not install the latest info files, so
> these will be out of date (corresponding to whatever version of Org
> shipped with your emacs). See XXXX for instructions on installing the
> info files.
>
> Now, Emacs should load whatever version of Org-mode you put at
> "~/path/to/org-mode". So to update Org in the future, simply delete that
> folder and replace it with a new one (steps 1 and 2 above).
>
> Footnotes:
>
> [1] On Windows, this path might look something like
> "C:\\path\to\org-mode"
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> "Gez" <register@geekanddiva.com> writes:
>
>> I'm a beginner on windows and I'm prepared to learn slowly and steadily,
>> but I'm having trouble getting started. I have GNU Emacs 23.2.1 and I'd
>> like to get the latest version of orgmode (my version has no
>> org-capture). I see from
>> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.php#compiling-org-without-make that
>> this problem has been addressed, but I'm still not clear on what to do...
>>
>> 1. How I find out which version of orgmode I have? I'm assuming from
>> http://orgmode.org/ that it's 6.21b, but is there a way of confirming
>> this?
>
> M-x org-version
>
>>
>> 2. Do I need to compile at all? At least in order to get started
>> learning and using it?
>
> No, it is not necessary to compile. Some experienced Org users do not
> compile at all, because they upgrade very often and don't want to risk
> accidentally forgetting to recompile.
>
>> 3. Whether or not I compile, how do I "install" the downloaded org-mode
>> files? Should I just copy them into \emacs-23.2\lisp\org (where my org
>> lisp files are now) and let them overwrite where necessary?
>>
>> 3. In the example path in the function on
>> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.php#compiling-org-without-make, the
>> org-lisp-directory is under .emacs.d but my org files are under
>> \emacs-23.2\lisp\org - does this matter?
>>
>> 4. Assuming the path is ok as it is, how do I enter the path into the
>> function - do I write the whole path - e.g. Q:\progs\emacs-23.2\lisp\org
>> ?
>>
>> 5. What option should I choose for org-compile-sources in the function?
>> (I don't know what it means.)
>>
>> 6. Finally, how do I use this function? Do I write it to my .emacs and
>> then call it? What is the command?
>>
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* Re: compiling org without make
2010-09-26 11:27 compiling org without make Gez
2010-09-26 17:20 ` Gez
@ 2010-09-26 17:27 ` Sebastian Rose
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From: Sebastian Rose @ 2010-09-26 17:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gez; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Gez,
"Gez" <register@geekanddiva.com> writes:
> 1. How I find out which version of orgmode I have? I'm assuming from
> http://orgmode.org/ that it's 6.21b, but is there a way of confirming
> this?
M-x org-version
> 2. Do I need to compile at all? At least in order to get started
> learning and using it?
No. I never compile the sources.
> 3. Whether or not I compile, how do I "install" the downloaded
> org-mode files? Should I just copy them into \emacs-23.2\lisp\org
> (where my org lisp files are now) and let them overwrite where
> necessary?
Add this to your .emacs file (adjust the path):
(add-to-list 'load-path "C:org-mode/lisp/")
This way, the sources of the downloaded Org-mode will be found before
the ones that come with emacs.
> 3. In the example path in the function on
> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.php#compiling-org-without-make, the
> org-lisp-directory is under .emacs.d but my org files are under
> \emacs-23.2\lisp\org - does this matter?
Yes. You'd need to adjust this line:
;; Customize:
(setq my/org-lisp-directory "~/.emacs.d/org/lisp")
> 4. Assuming the path is ok as it is, how do I enter the path into the
> function - do I write the whole path - e.g.
> Q:\progs\emacs-23.2\lisp\org ?
No need for parameters, ones the path is adjusted (item 3.).
> 5. What option should I choose for org-compile-sources in the
> function? (I don't know what it means.)
Just change this line
(setq my/org-compile-sources t)
to this:
(setq my/org-compile-sources nil)
if you do not want to compile the sources.
> 6. Finally, how do I use this function? Do I write it to my .emacs
> and then call it? What is the command?
M-x my/compile-org RET
That's it.
HTH
Sebastian
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