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From: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
To: tsd@tsdye.com
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys?
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 13:34:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r3szk6q9.fsf@gmx.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2twxwm88t.fsf@tsdye.com> (Thomas S. Dye's message of "Sat, 07 Mar 2015 18:19:14 -1000")

tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:

> Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
>
>> Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:
>>
>>>> I'm asking because I haven't fully grasped uses for the shorthand.  What
>>>> is the use case?
>>>
>>> More readable, I guess.
>>
>> I agree.  In time, "org-reftex" would insert @key if no notes are
>> requested at the time of insertion.
>
> I think the OP has a valid point.  After we teach org-reftex to insert
> @key if no notes are requested, are we going to convince all key
> generating software to prohibit keys that end in punctuation?

So just to get it straight: are you advocating for only allowing
[cite:@key]-like constructs to allow punctuation at the end of words?

Perhaps it's a can of worms, but you can also match keys against a
"punctuation at end of word"-regexp and use the fuller cite command then.
I'm not too happy with having the regexps used in [cite:@·] and @· diverge
too much, though...

So /given support for end-of-word punctuation/, we'd either have two
abandon a "single" org-element--citation-key-re (yes that's not entirely
correct) or give up short citations.

> As I currently understand the problem, that seems like a tall order to
> me.

It's also a tall order to support end of word punctuation cf. above.

I think another important question is how easy is it to configure the
citation manager in question not to insert punctuation marks at the end?

—Rasmus

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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-04 18:21 Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys? Vaidheeswaran C
2015-03-04 18:30 ` Rasmus
2015-03-04 18:42   ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-03-04 19:01     ` Rasmus
2015-03-04 19:18       ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-03-04 21:38       ` Christian Moe
2015-03-05  5:00       ` Richard Lawrence
2015-03-06 10:49         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-03-06 11:55           ` Rasmus
2015-03-06 17:34             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-03-06 17:55               ` Rasmus
2015-03-06 21:01                 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-03-06 12:41           ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-03-06 18:09             ` Richard Lawrence
2015-03-07  6:28               ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-03-07 17:09                 ` Richard Lawrence
2015-03-07 18:20                   ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-03-08  8:19                   ` Stefan Nobis
2015-03-07 17:50                 ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-03-08  0:18                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-03-08  2:12                     ` Rasmus
2015-03-08  4:19                       ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-03-08 12:34                         ` Rasmus [this message]
2015-03-08 17:07                           ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-03-08 17:49                             ` Rasmus
2015-03-09  1:56                             ` Richard Lawrence
2015-03-09  2:29                               ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-03-09  8:57                                 ` Stefan Nobis
2015-03-09  9:19                                   ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-03-09  9:49                                     ` Stefan Nobis
2015-03-09 10:46                                       ` Vaidheeswaran C
2015-03-09 11:02                                         ` Rasmus
2015-03-09 11:27                                         ` Stefan Nobis
2015-03-09 16:05                                 ` Richard Lawrence
2015-03-09 16:37                                   ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-03-09 16:49                                   ` Eric S Fraga
2015-03-09 17:49                                     ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-03-09 18:00                                       ` Eric S Fraga
2015-03-09 18:44                                         ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-03-09 19:26                                           ` Eric S Fraga
2015-03-09 18:50                                       ` Richard Lawrence
2015-03-09 21:07                                         ` Rasmus
2015-03-09 22:33                                           ` Richard Lawrence
2015-03-10  0:37                                             ` Rasmus
2015-03-10 15:35                                               ` Richard Lawrence
2015-03-10  0:36                                     ` Richard Lawrence
2015-03-10  7:06                                       ` Eric S Fraga
2015-03-10  8:15                                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-03-10  8:50                                           ` Rasmus
2015-03-10 10:18                                             ` Eric S Fraga
2015-03-10 14:35                                               ` Matt Price
2015-03-10 15:32                                               ` Richard Lawrence
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2015-03-04 18:21 Vaidheeswaran C

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