From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab@web.de>
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 29.0.50; [WISH]: Let us make EWW browse WWW Org files correctly
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 23:54:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r0yvsgtt.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y1g/dA3NcgfprFZt@protected.localdomain>
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Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
> * Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@web.de> [2022-10-25 18:06]:
>> > This wish request is related to Emacs EWW and Org mode.
>> >
>> > Please make EWW recognize Org file when served by WWW server. Currently
>> > it does not recognize the MIME type text/x-org and opens the file as
>> > text, it does not invoke the org mode. In my opinion, it should.
>>
>> This sounds dangerous. Org mode can execute untrusted code, so this
>> could trick people into running untrusted code with the permissions of
>> their Emacs.
>
> I can always do that in Emacs, execute untrusted code. There are no
> trust mechanisms for plethora of Emacs packages and codes distributed
> over Internet.
All of the Emacs packages have some amount of implicit trust. Even melpa
carefully vets packages nowadays. That’s not the case for some website
you visit.
> That was not my request.
>
> Do you know how to make this work?
If you ask me whether I can make this work safely: This would first
require the introduction of a safe-org-mode which strictly disables all
features that can execute remote code or disguise unsafe operations as
safe ones. If a user then decides to explicitly call M-x org-mode,
that’s their problem.
If you ask me whether I know how to make this work unsafely: It likely
won’t need a lot of elisp reading, but I do not, because I do not look
for it, because if I did, I would not.
I do not want to be the one who caused the systems of eww users to get
breached, or who helped opening that security hole.
Best wishes,
Arne
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-25 12:06 29.0.50; [WISH]: Let us make EWW browse WWW Org files correctly Jean Louis
2022-10-25 15:02 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-10-25 19:56 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-25 21:54 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide [this message]
2022-10-26 7:57 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-26 11:55 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-10-26 12:20 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-26 12:45 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-10-26 13:19 ` bug#58774: " Jean Louis
2022-10-26 13:55 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-10-26 17:36 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-27 7:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-10-27 8:40 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-27 11:22 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-10-27 11:23 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-10-26 7:59 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-25 23:03 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-26 6:07 ` bug#58774: " Stefan Kangas
2022-10-26 6:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-26 8:24 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-26 20:22 ` indieterminacy
2022-10-26 11:30 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-10-26 21:41 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-27 10:43 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-10-26 13:15 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-26 8:21 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-26 17:07 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-26 18:37 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-26 21:16 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-10-27 4:25 ` tomas
2022-10-27 11:10 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-10-26 21:56 ` indieterminacy
2022-10-26 20:00 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-25 22:13 ` Ag Ibragimov
2022-10-26 8:28 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-26 13:00 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-26 13:42 ` bug#58774: " Jean Louis
2022-10-27 4:55 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-27 11:13 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-10-27 17:41 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-27 21:43 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-10-27 15:35 ` bug#58774: " Max Nikulin
2022-10-27 17:58 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-27 21:49 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-10-27 18:25 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-27 19:53 ` Quiliro Ordóñez
2022-10-27 19:58 ` Quiliro Ordóñez
2022-10-27 21:57 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-10-27 22:18 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-27 23:14 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-10-27 23:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-28 8:28 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-11-02 4:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
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