* New Exporter BUG/Change in behaviour
@ 2013-04-05 16:52 Bernt Hansen
2013-04-05 18:36 ` Nicolas Goaziou
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Bernt Hansen @ 2013-04-05 16:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Nicolas,
I finally updated to the latest master branch at work yesterday to move
to the new exporter and found the following change I don't know how to
deal with.
My org file has
#+OPTIONS: tasks:todo
This globally skips DONE tasks in my exports when I export the entire
file in both the old and new exporter.
If I select a task with C-c @ that is DONE (or any done state) and try
to export that in the new exporter I get nothing (except an empty table
of contents) -- even if the Org buffer is narrowed to only that task.
The old exporter would export this anyway but it seems the new exporter
is honouring the global #+OPTIONS: task:todo even when it is outside the
currently narrowed buffer range.
There is no local property that I am aware of to say export all todo
states. I have to list them individually which isn't user-friendly so I
can't reverse the global setting with a local property in my
task/subtree. Having to add a property for my exports for email just to
get it to override global options really isn't user-friendly since the
options per file are different and the user has to know exactly what to
undo (and future changes to the global options makes this a moving target)
Is this a bug? My current workaround is to delete the global #+OPTIONS
line (but that doesn't feel right since I have to add it back to export
what is left to do for the entire file when sharing it with others). I
regularly export small subtrees (with C-c @) to copy ASCII / HTML export
results to emails so the old exporter behaviour was much more
predictable in the results I would get when using C-c @.
So far the move to the next exporter has been very easy.
Great job!
Regards,
Bernt
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* Re: New Exporter BUG/Change in behaviour
2013-04-05 16:52 New Exporter BUG/Change in behaviour Bernt Hansen
@ 2013-04-05 18:36 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-04-05 19:04 ` Bernt Hansen
2013-04-06 21:50 ` Thorsten Jolitz
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-04-05 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bernt Hansen; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hello,
Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> writes:
> My org file has
>
> #+OPTIONS: tasks:todo
>
> This globally skips DONE tasks in my exports when I export the entire
> file in both the old and new exporter.
>
> If I select a task with C-c @ that is DONE (or any done state) and try
> to export that in the new exporter I get nothing (except an empty table
> of contents) -- even if the Org buffer is narrowed to only that task.
>
> The old exporter would export this anyway but it seems the new exporter
> is honouring the global #+OPTIONS: task:todo even when it is outside the
> currently narrowed buffer range.
Indeed. OPTIONS is a buffer-wide keyword.
> There is no local property that I am aware of to say export all todo
> states. I have to list them individually which isn't user-friendly so I
> can't reverse the global setting with a local property in my
> task/subtree. Having to add a property for my exports for email just to
> get it to override global options really isn't user-friendly since the
> options per file are different and the user has to know exactly what to
> undo (and future changes to the global options makes this a moving target)
> Is this a bug?
No, it isn't.
> My current workaround is to delete the global #+OPTIONS
> line (but that doesn't feel right since I have to add it back to export
> what is left to do for the entire file when sharing it with others). I
> regularly export small subtrees (with C-c @) to copy ASCII / HTML export
> results to emails so the old exporter behaviour was much more
> predictable in the results I would get when using C-c @.
The new exporter distinguishes between subtree export (toggled with C-s
key within the dispatcher) and region export. In the old exporter, C-c @
+ export command would give you a subtree export. This is not the case
in the new exporter. You have to explicitly mention you want a subtree
export. On the other hand, you don't need to select a region beforehand.
In other words, you don't trigger a subtree export anymore with C-c @
(but it triggers a region export).
If you export a subtree in the new exporter jargon, you can override
locally #+options: line by setting top headline's :EXPORT_OPTIONS:
property to an appropriate value, e. g. :EXPORT_OPTIONS: tasks:t.
There is no such mechanism for a region export. But you can implement
a function that will remove the OPTIONS line when buffer is narrowed:
(when (buffer-narrowed-p)
(org-with-wide-buffer
(goto-char (point-min))
(let ((case-fold-search t))
(while (re-search-forward "^[ \t]*#\\+options:" nil t)
(when (eq (org-element-type (org-element-at-point)) 'keyword)
(delete-region (line-beginning-position)
(progn (forward-line) (point))))))))
Then add it to `org-export-before-parsing-hook'.
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: New Exporter BUG/Change in behaviour
2013-04-05 18:36 ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2013-04-05 19:04 ` Bernt Hansen
2013-04-06 21:50 ` Thorsten Jolitz
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Bernt Hansen @ 2013-04-05 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:
> Hello,
>
> Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> writes:
>
>> Is this a bug?
>
> No, it isn't.
>
>> My current workaround is to delete the global #+OPTIONS
>> line (but that doesn't feel right since I have to add it back to export
>> what is left to do for the entire file when sharing it with others). I
>> regularly export small subtrees (with C-c @) to copy ASCII / HTML export
>> results to emails so the old exporter behaviour was much more
>> predictable in the results I would get when using C-c @.
>
> The new exporter distinguishes between subtree export (toggled with C-s
> key within the dispatcher) and region export. In the old exporter, C-c @
> + export command would give you a subtree export. This is not the case
> in the new exporter. You have to explicitly mention you want a subtree
> export. On the other hand, you don't need to select a region beforehand.
> In other words, you don't trigger a subtree export anymore with C-c @
> (but it triggers a region export).
>
> If you export a subtree in the new exporter jargon, you can override
> locally #+options: line by setting top headline's :EXPORT_OPTIONS:
> property to an appropriate value, e. g. :EXPORT_OPTIONS: tasks:t.
Thanks for the clarification! I'll give it a whirl :)
Regards,
Bernt
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* Re: New Exporter BUG/Change in behaviour
2013-04-05 18:36 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-04-05 19:04 ` Bernt Hansen
@ 2013-04-06 21:50 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-04-06 22:22 ` Nicolas Goaziou
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thorsten Jolitz @ 2013-04-06 21:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:
Hello,
> The new exporter distinguishes between subtree export (toggled with C-s
> key within the dispatcher) and region export. In the old exporter, C-c @
> + export command would give you a subtree export. This is not the case
> in the new exporter. You have to explicitly mention you want a subtree
> export. On the other hand, you don't need to select a region beforehand.
> In other words, you don't trigger a subtree export anymore with C-c @
> (but it triggers a region export).
>
> If you export a subtree in the new exporter jargon, you can override
> locally #+options: line by setting top headline's :EXPORT_OPTIONS:
> property to an appropriate value, e. g. :EXPORT_OPTIONS: tasks:t.
Shouldn't the
,---------------------
| :EXPORT_OPTIONS: d:t
`---------------------
setting in the following minimal org-file export the property-drawer for
this subtree too?
,-----------------------
| * header1
| :PROPERTIES:
| :EXPORT_OPTIONS: d:t
| :END:
|
| hello world
|
| |hello| table|
|
`-----------------------
Exporting to an ASCII buffer:
,------------
| C-c C-e t A
`------------
gives
,------------------
| Thorsten Jolitz
|
|
| Table of Contents
| _________________
|
| 1 header1
|
|
| 1 header1
| =========
|
| hello world
|
| hello| table|
`------------------
--
cheers,
Thorsten
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* Re: New Exporter BUG/Change in behaviour
2013-04-06 21:50 ` Thorsten Jolitz
@ 2013-04-06 22:22 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-04-06 22:47 ` Thorsten Jolitz
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-04-06 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thorsten Jolitz; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hello,
Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes:
> Shouldn't the
>
> ,---------------------
> | :EXPORT_OPTIONS: d:t
> `---------------------
>
> setting in the following minimal org-file export the property-drawer for
> this subtree too?
>
> ,-----------------------
> | * header1
> | :PROPERTIES:
> | :EXPORT_OPTIONS: d:t
> | :END:
> |
> | hello world
> |
> | |hello| table|
> |
> `-----------------------
No. The "d:" item only applies to regular drawers.
`property-drawer' elements are not among them. Back-ends handle these
beasts as they see fit (they usually ignore them, as you can tell).
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
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* Re: New Exporter BUG/Change in behaviour
2013-04-06 22:22 ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2013-04-06 22:47 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-04-06 23:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thorsten Jolitz @ 2013-04-06 22:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:
> No. The "d:" item only applies to regular drawers.
>
> `property-drawer' elements are not among them. Back-ends handle these
> beasts as they see fit (they usually ignore them, as you can tell).
I actually have a use-case where I would like to export the
property-drawer to ASCII, but that would involve writing new code - no way
to configure it, right?
--
cheers,
Thorsten
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* Re: New Exporter BUG/Change in behaviour
2013-04-06 22:47 ` Thorsten Jolitz
@ 2013-04-06 23:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-04-06 23:27 ` Thorsten Jolitz
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-04-06 23:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thorsten Jolitz; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes:
> Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> No. The "d:" item only applies to regular drawers.
>>
>> `property-drawer' elements are not among them. Back-ends handle these
>> beasts as they see fit (they usually ignore them, as you can tell).
>
> I actually have a use-case where I would like to export the
> property-drawer to ASCII, but that would involve writing new code - no way
> to configure it, right?
There's no direct option, if that's your question. One possibility is,
from `org-export-before-processing-hook', to copy each property drawer
into an example block below. But it involves writing a couple lines of
code, indeed.
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
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* Re: New Exporter BUG/Change in behaviour
2013-04-06 23:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2013-04-06 23:27 ` Thorsten Jolitz
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thorsten Jolitz @ 2013-04-06 23:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:
> Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> No. The "d:" item only applies to regular drawers.
>>>
>>> `property-drawer' elements are not among them. Back-ends handle these
>>> beasts as they see fit (they usually ignore them, as you can tell).
>>
>> I actually have a use-case where I would like to export the
>> property-drawer to ASCII, but that would involve writing new code - no way
>> to configure it, right?
>
> There's no direct option, if that's your question. One possibility is,
> from `org-export-before-processing-hook', to copy each property drawer
> into an example block below. But it involves writing a couple lines of
> code, indeed.
Ok, I can do that, thanks for the hint.
--
cheers,
Thorsten
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