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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.online>
Cc: Evgenii Klimov <eugene.dev@lipklim.org>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: [TASK] Ensure built-in babel backend consistency (standard header support) and ad documentation to the manual (was: [Pre-PATCH v2] Add the capability to specify lexical scope in tangled files (was: Add new :lexical header argument))
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2023 09:18:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lefgi58c.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87edl9f4qq.fsf@tsdye.online>

"Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.online> writes:

> IIRC, there wasn't much discussion.   The current situation 
> doesn't seem ripe for documentation in the manual.
>
> Here are some potential hurdles:
>  - there are likely too many built-in backends;
> ...
> One way forward might distinguish between babel backends for GNU 
> software and babel backends for non-GNU software, with the former 
> built in, guaranteed to be consistent to some standard (which 
> needs to be formulated), and documented in the manual and the 
> latter moved to contrib or a package archive, with documentation 
> (if any) on Worg.

We have recently reduced the number of built-in backends:
https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87bl9rq29m.fsf@gnu.org/
Presumably, all that's left is useful is worth maintaining upstream.

>  - the built-in backends are a mixed bag--ob-lua seems 
>  half-finished to me, though I don't program in lua and struggled 
>  to set up the language to write the documentation stub on Worg;

AFAIK, most people assume that built-in backends are stable.
If they are not, it is a bug anyway. Or we should declare that we do not
maintain them.

>  - nearly a dozen of the built-in babel backends lack 
>  documentation outside the source code (see 
>  https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/index.html#orgbc466c5); 
>  and

>  - language support is inconsistent (see 
>  https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/lang-compat.html), 
>  which introduces complications for language agnostic literate 
>  programming.

That's what we should work on.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-07-16  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.49.1689350420.11515.emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
2023-07-14 20:43 ` [Pre-PATCH v2] Add the capability to specify lexical scope in tangled files (was: Add new :lexical header argument) No Wayman
2023-07-14 21:25   ` Evgenii Klimov
2023-07-14 21:57     ` Thomas S. Dye
2023-07-15  8:12       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-15 16:11         ` Thomas S. Dye
2023-07-15 19:33           ` Berry, Charles
2023-07-16  9:24             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-16  9:18           ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-07-16 17:40             ` [TASK] Ensure built-in babel backend consistency (standard header support) and ad documentation to the manual (was: [Pre-PATCH v2] Add the capability to specify lexical scope in tangled files (was: Add new :lexical header argument)) Thomas S. Dye
2023-07-16 18:29               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-16 18:53                 ` Thomas S. Dye

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