Re: suggestions of Android smartphones

From: "Sven Bretfeld" <sven.bretfeld@gmx.ch>
To: emacs-org <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: suggestions of Android smartphones
Date: 21 Apr 2010 10:09:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k4s1rzuc.fsf@gmx.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <k2n6ac505ad1004180707w4bf5cc48t9f2d3217a6fcb9ca@mail.gmail.com> (Daniel Martins's message of "Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:07:32 -0300")

Hi all 

I'm sorry to break the thread. By mistake I sent an answer to Daniel as
a PM. Now, I don't have the previous posting because of my expiration
settings. I will do some editing to my original answer because of
questions he asked me in the meantime. I'm really sorry.

Hi Daniel

Daniel Martins <danielemc@gmail.com> writes:

> BTW what Android smartphone do you have?

I have a HTC Magic. ConnectBot is my favorite application. I have Emacs
always running as a daemon on my Computers. So connecting to them via
ConnectBot and starting Emacs is a matter of five seconds. No need for a
genuine Emacs on Android. 

EDIT: You can do the same if you have Emacs 23 running and if you are
willing to never shut your PC down. To speed up the start of Emacsclient
I connect to the PC via ConnectBot using a key, not a password. My
.bashrc has an alias defined to start 'emacsclient -t' with the alias
'ec'. Emacs will be available within ca. 5 seconds even from a distance
of 300km. (You should have a UTMS flatrate for this.)

For Org stuff, I have an Emacs function that automatically generates
html files of all important agenda views once every hour. I copy these
files to the phone via AndFTP once or twice a day. Capturing I do with
Remember the Milk. So there are two methods of working with Org on
Android before MobileOrg is ready: the ssh method and the FTP/Remember
the Milk method. I'm quite happy with this solution.

EDIT: I explained my RTM method in a posting some weeks ago. The code is
included in that thread. Just search the archive for 'Remember the
Milk'. As for the function for generating html exports of the agenda
views: 

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(defun sb-org-update-year-agenda-file (&optional force)
  (interactive)
  (save-excursion
    (save-window-excursion
      (let ((file "~/.gtd/html/org-year-agenda.html"))
        (org-batch-agenda "a" org-agenda-ndays 180 org-agenda-include-diary nil)
        (org-write-agenda file)))))

;; do it once at startup
(sb-org-update-year-agenda-file t)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

This produces an html output of the main agenda view for 6 months. I
have a few other export functions for NEXT/HOME, NEXT/OFFICE and the
like. All html files are updated every 30 minutes to include all tasks
captured in the meantime:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(defun sb-org-update-all ()
  (interactive)
  (sb-org-update-today-txt-agenda-file)
  (sb-org-update-week-agenda-file)
  (sb-org-update-mit-txt-agenda-file)
  (sb-org-update-mit-agenda-file)
  (sb-org-update-big-agenda-file)
  (sb-org-update-today-agenda-file)
  (sb-org-update-year-agenda-file)
  (sb-org-update-home-agenda-file)
  (sb-org-update-office-agenda-file)
  (sb-org-update-waiting-file)
  (sb-org-update-delegated-file)
  (sb-org-update-project-agenda-file)
)

(run-at-time nil 1800 'sb-org-update-all)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

On the Android side, I download these files once or twice a day to the
SD card with AndFTP (via SFTP of course). The directory ~/.gtd/html is
configured as the working directory in AndFTP. So, just press 'select
all' and start the download. This takes about 10 seconds, because the
year agenda file is quite large. I have linked each file on the Android
desktop with an Icon, which opens the file in an html viewer. The view
contains all formatting and colors of the original Emacs agenda view.

As you see, I export some agenda views also as txt files (it's the same
function as above, just replace the file ending .html with .txt). I use
these files with GnomeOSD, i.e. my most important appointments,
deadlines and things do to appear on my PC screen once an hour in large
letters and with a sound, to remind me of my tasks.

Greetings

Sven

Daniel Martins <danielemc@gmail.com> writes:

>  --- resending with a proper title ---
>
> Matthew,
>
> Just a suggestion for newbies.
>
> Could you generate a video of MobileOrg Android similar to those of
> the MobileOrg Iphone.
>
> I am still open to suggestions of Android smartphones.
>
> If I need to access a remote ssh account and open Emacs, the available
> keyborards are OK?
>
> Daniel
>
>
> PS I "bought"  an Android phone called Motorola Quench but due to a
> "misunderstanding" with the operator I was forced to cancel the
> purchase. (I am still very annoyed with this problem)
>
>
>
> 2010/4/13 Matthew Jones <mat@matburt.net>:
>> I am the developer/maintainer of MobileOrg for Android and I'd appreciate
>> any feedback on the application.   You can find more information and
>> download links on the
>> wiki: http://wiki.github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/
>> 73,
>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
>> http://matburt.net
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Daniel Martins <danielemc@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Please, share your first impressions!!! I just bought an Android phone
>>> and would like to take similar routes.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> 2010/2/16 David Rogoff <david@therogoffs.com>:
>>> > On 2010-02-16 13:47:59 -0800, Tom Tobin said:
>>> >
>>> >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:18 PM, David Rogoff <david@therogoffs.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi all.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> New org-mode convert also looking at new phones.  It looks like
>>> >>> theMoto
>>> >>> Droid would be great for running org-mode.  Has anyone ported emacs to
>>> >>> this
>>> >>> platform and gotten org-mode running?
>>> >>
>>> >> I just switched from my iPhone back to an Android phone; I came across
>>> >> this project:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android
>>> >>
>>> >> I haven't tried it yet, though.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks - I'll take a look.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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Sven Bretfeld

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