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* [ox-ascii, bug?] aligning text withing footnotes
@ 2015-03-05 23:31 Rasmus
  2015-03-07  1:12 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Rasmus @ 2015-03-05 23:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi,

When writing plain text I might write something like:

See foo[fn:1] 

[fn:1] http://orgmode.org/\\
       http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

This is exported as:

See foo[1]

Footnotes
─────────

[1] [http://orgmode.org/]
       [http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/]


I would like to have the links aligned after the ascii export.  That is,
if line 1 of a footnote is "shifted" n characters to the left, I would
like all subsequent lines of that element to be shirted n characters to
the left.

But maybe this would have other bad effects?

Thanks,
Rasmus

-- 
Don't panic!!!

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• * Re: [ox-ascii, bug?] aligning text withing footnotes
    2015-03-05 23:31 [ox-ascii, bug?] aligning text withing footnotes Rasmus
  @ 2015-03-07  1:12 ` Nicolas Goaziou
    2015-03-07 11:26   ` Rasmus
    0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
  From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2015-03-07  1:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
    To: Rasmus; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
  
  Hello,
  
  Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
  
  > When writing plain text I might write something like:
  >
  > See foo[fn:1] 
  >
  > [fn:1] http://orgmode.org/\\
  >        http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
  >
  > This is exported as:
  >
  > See foo[1]
  >
  > Footnotes
  > ─────────
  >
  > [1] [http://orgmode.org/]
  >        [http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/]
  
  This should be fixed. Expected indentation is:
  
  
    [1] [http://orgmode.org/]
    [http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/]
  
  
  > I would like to have the links aligned after the ascii export.  That is,
  > if line 1 of a footnote is "shifted" n characters to the left, I would
  > like all subsequent lines of that element to be shirted n characters to
  > the left.
  
  You mean this this indentation scheme for footnotes
  
    [1] Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
        eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enimad
        minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip
        ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in
        voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur
        sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt
        mollit anim id est laborum.
  
  instead of
  
    [1] Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
    eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enimad
    minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip
    ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in
    voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur
    sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt
    mollit anim id est laborum.
  
  > But maybe this would have other bad effects?
  
  It looks like plain lists. Anyway I don't have strong opinion about it.
  
  
  Regards,
  
  -- 
  Nicolas Goaziou
  
  ^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

• • * Re: [ox-ascii, bug?] aligning text withing footnotes
      2015-03-07  1:12 ` Nicolas Goaziou
    @ 2015-03-07 11:26   ` Rasmus
      2015-03-07 20:16     ` Nicolas Goaziou
      0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
    From: Rasmus @ 2015-03-07 11:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: emacs-orgmode
    
    Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:
    
    > Hello,
    >
    > Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
    >
    >> When writing plain text I might write something like:
    >>
    >> See foo[fn:1] 
    >>
    >> [fn:1] http://orgmode.org/\\
    >>        http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
    >>
    >> This is exported as:
    >>
    >> See foo[1]
    >>
    >> Footnotes
    >> ─────────
    >>
    >> [1] [http://orgmode.org/]
    >>        [http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/]
    >
    > This should be fixed. Expected indentation is:
    >
    >
    >   [1] [http://orgmode.org/]
    >   [http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/]
    
    No.  In a normal paragraph when I do
    
    para1\\
         para2
    
    The whitespace indentation is respected.  All I'm saying that when I do
    something equivalent in a footnote the amount of characters removed from
    the first list (typically 3: "fn:") should also be removed from subsequent
    lines.  E.g.
    
    [fn:1] http://orgmode.org/\\
           http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
    
    Becomes:
    
    [1] http://orgmode.org/\\
           http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
    
    But 
    
    [fn:1] http://orgmode.org/ long text here
    http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
    
    Becomes 
    
    [1] http://orgmode.org/ long text here
    http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
    
    
    > You mean this this indentation scheme for footnotes
    >
    >   [1] Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
    >       eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enimad
    >       minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip
    >       ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in
    >       voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur
    >       sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt
    >       mollit anim id est laborum.
    >
    > instead of
    >
    >   [1] Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
    >   eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enimad
    >   minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip
    >   ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in
    >   voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur
    >   sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt
    >   mollit anim id est laborum.
    
    
    I would want the first scheme if I typed in my footnote as 
    
    [fn:1] Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
           eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enimad
           minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip
    
    And the second if I typed:
    
    [fn:1] Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
    eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enimad
    minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip
    
    Does it make sense?
    
    —Rasmus 
    
    -- 
    The Kids call him Billy the Saint
    
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  • • * Re: [ox-ascii, bug?] aligning text withing footnotes
        2015-03-07 11:26   ` Rasmus
      @ 2015-03-07 20:16     ` Nicolas Goaziou
        2015-03-08  2:18       ` Rasmus
        0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
      From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2015-03-07 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
        To: Rasmus; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
      
      Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
      
      > No.  In a normal paragraph when I do
      >
      > para1\\
      >      para2
      >
      > The whitespace indentation is respected.  All I'm saying that when I do
      > something equivalent in a footnote the amount of characters removed from
      > the first list (typically 3: "fn:") should also be removed from subsequent
      > lines.  E.g.
      >
      > [fn:1] http://orgmode.org/\\
      >        http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
      >
      > Becomes:
      >
      > [1] http://orgmode.org/\\
      >        http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
      >
      > But 
      >
      > [fn:1] http://orgmode.org/ long text here
      > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
      >
      > Becomes 
      >
      > [1] http://orgmode.org/ long text here
      > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
      
      It is difficult to know the indentation of the first line from the parse
      tree. Both
      
        [fn:1] http://orgmode.org/
      
      and
      
        [fn:1]       http://orgmode.org
      
      will appear as "http://orgmode.org" anyway. We could compute it by
      subtracting footnote's beginning position from paragraph's. However, we
      cannot trust such positions as they might be fake, or even not there
      (elements inserted right into the parse tree).
      
      You can use a verse block to align properly links, if you want to.
      
      
      Regards,
      
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    • • * Re: [ox-ascii, bug?] aligning text withing footnotes
          2015-03-07 20:16     ` Nicolas Goaziou
        @ 2015-03-08  2:18       ` Rasmus
          2015-03-08 16:21         ` Nicolas Goaziou
          0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
        From: Rasmus @ 2015-03-08  2:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
          To: emacs-orgmode
        
        Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:
        
        > Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
        >
        >> No.  In a normal paragraph when I do
        >>
        >> para1\\
        >>      para2
        >>
        >> The whitespace indentation is respected.  All I'm saying that when I do
        >> something equivalent in a footnote the amount of characters removed from
        >> the first list (typically 3: "fn:") should also be removed from subsequent
        >> lines.  E.g.
        >>
        >> [fn:1] http://orgmode.org/\\
        >>        http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
        >>
        >> Becomes:
        >>
        >> [1] http://orgmode.org/\\
        >>        http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
        >>
        >> But 
        >>
        >> [fn:1] http://orgmode.org/ long text here
        >> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
        >>
        >> Becomes 
        >>
        >> [1] http://orgmode.org/ long text here
        >> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
        >
        > It is difficult to know the indentation of the first line from the parse
        > tree. Both
        >
        >   [fn:1] http://orgmode.org/
        >
        > and
        >
        >   [fn:1]       http://orgmode.org
        >
        > will appear as "http://orgmode.org" anyway. We could compute it by
        > subtracting footnote's beginning position from paragraph's. However, we
        > cannot trust such positions as they might be fake, or even not there
        > (elements inserted right into the parse tree).
        
        What I want to do is simpler.  I want to subtract the length between [1]
        and [fn:1] from every line between :begin and :end of the
        footnote-definition.  Differences other than the three character
        difference between [fn:1] and [1] I don't care about.
        
        –Rasmus
        
        -- 
        When in doubt, do it!
        
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      • • * Re: [ox-ascii, bug?] aligning text withing footnotes
            2015-03-08  2:18       ` Rasmus
          @ 2015-03-08 16:21         ` Nicolas Goaziou
            0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
          From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2015-03-08 16:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
            To: Rasmus; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
          
          Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
          
          > What I want to do is simpler.  I want to subtract the length between [1]
          > and [fn:1] from every line between :begin and :end of the
          > footnote-definition.  Differences other than the three character
          > difference between [fn:1] and [1] I don't care about.
          
          This is not simpler. Exporting works on top of a parse tree, not the
          current buffer. Global indentation is removed before "ox-ascii" even
          sees it.
          
          Regards,
          
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