From: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org equivalent to \chapter*
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 10:42:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d2cb1ify.fsf@gmx.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 53E3F8AF.4060200@gmail.com
Alan L Tyree <alantyree@gmail.com> writes:
> On 07/08/14 20:05, Rasmus wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm sure this has been asked before, but I can't seem to find it. Is
>>>>>>>> there an org markup that produces a starred latex heading?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In a book, for example, I want the Preface to be at chapter level, but
>>>>>>>> not included in the numbering. Same for HTML export, of course.
>>>>>>> You would probably need some sort of filter for this. Most certainly
>>>>>>> you will be able to find implementations on this list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's something from my init file that works with LaTeX. Other
>>>>>>> formats such as txt and html are harder since Org generates section
>>>>>>> numbers and the TOC.
>>>>>> Thanks for sharing this. It will be useful for book authors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you think it is possible to write a general headline filter that
>>>>>> takes care of all the various LaTeX possibilities?
>>>>> I don't like *one* filter to rule them all. Of course, if it's a
>>>>> collection of other function calls that is OK. As your recent
>>>>> question showed execution order may matter,
>>>>> (e.g. with :ignoreheading:clearpage:).
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course it's possible to bundle a couple of filters generally useful
>>>>> for ox-latex and provide a "consistent" interface. Alternatively, one
>>>>> could make a ox-latex+.el that provides a derived class with extra
>>>>> options. That's may be more work, and may be harder to hack.
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact Aaron started ox-extra.el, with the intention of providing
>>>>> "semi-official" extensions but Worg may be a better means of
>>>>> communication.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now Iʻm using tags to ignoreheading, clearpage, and newpage.
>>>>>> In addition to your nonum filter, Eric S. has a filter that gets rid
>>>>>> of a heading and promotes the content, which I havenʻt had occasion
>>>>>> to use, but also has its own tag.
>>>>> Yes, Eric has cool tree-based filter(s). I want to study them more
>>>>> carefully. Quite possibly, it's easier to provide elegant filters
>>>>> with trees. For instance, you have direct access to the element
>>>>> representation. In my filters I "hack" my way to this using
>>>>> text-properties.
>>>>>
>>>>>> From the LaTeX authorʻs point of view, it would be great to have a set
>>>>>> of tags (and options) that "just work."
>>>>> Would you want this as a derived class or filters? Perhaps it's
>>>>> easier to have a derived class with an alternative headline
>>>>> function. . .
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you (and others) think the "tag and filter" approach can achieve
>>>>>> this? Or, are there too many moving parts to make it feasible?
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> The ox-koma-script interface is basically controlled via tags. I
>>>>> think it's nice.
>>>> Thanks for this useful overview and the pointers to good examples.
>>>>
>>>> Iʻve been slowly building a set of filters and links that work for me,
>>>> but each new project differs a bit from the previous one and I have to
>>>> fiddle with the Org mode setup. Iʻm eager to get to the place Iʻm at
>>>> with LaTeX, where I just jump in and start writing.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for your help.
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>> Thanks to everyone who responded.
>>>
>>> Several of my books are out of print and I am converting them to ePub
>>> and to printed form. ePub is pretty smooth by exporting to HTML and
>>> then using Calibre. LaTeX is the obvious choice for print.
>> Have you seen this project:
>>
>> https://github.com/rzoller/tex2ebook
>>
>> I haven't tried it myself, but the process seems similar to what you
>> are doing only that it uses hevea to convert from tex to html.
>>
>> —Rasmus
>>
>>
> Thanks, Rasmus. I'll have a look at this and report back. Org -> tex
> ->
> HTML would at least solve the unnumbered heading problem (with the use
> of your filter).
>
> As an additional aside, note that Pandoc Markdown permits the use of a
> tag to produce an unnumbered heading when exporting to HTML and LaTeX.
>
> # Heading {.unnumbered}
Pandoc has something good going for it, though in this case Org tags
seem nicer. I'm particularly envious of the native support of
citations via "@·" in Pandoc.
> I'm a very inexperienced lisp coder, but it seems to me that this
> should be incorporated into the basic exporters. The HTML exporter,
> for example, adds the numbering to each heading. In the loop that
> accomplishes that, it should be easy to ignore headings with a tag
> such as your :nonum:. Otherwise, it is necessary to write a filter
> that not only undoes the numbering for selected headlines, but
> essentially reproduces the numbering algorithms originally introduced
> in ox-html.
How about the TOC? Should unnumbered headlines still appear there?
If yes the implementation may be as easy as you are suggesting here
and a patch could be written.
—Rasmus
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-08-08 8:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-06 0:11 Org equivalent to \chapter* Alan L Tyree
2014-08-06 1:11 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-08-06 2:28 ` Nick Dokos
2014-08-06 8:09 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-08-06 9:18 ` Rasmus
2014-08-06 17:15 ` Thomas S. Dye
2014-08-06 17:38 ` Rasmus
2014-08-06 19:52 ` Thomas S. Dye
2014-08-06 22:46 ` Alan L Tyree
2014-08-07 10:05 ` Rasmus
2014-08-07 22:07 ` Alan L Tyree
2014-08-08 8:42 ` Rasmus [this message]
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