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From: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>
To: Pankaj Jangid <pankaj@codeisgreat.org>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Release Org 9.4.2
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 07:19:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87czzajms2.fsf@bzg.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wnxiv1te.fsf@codeisgreat.org> (Pankaj Jangid's message of "Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:29:09 +0530")

Pankaj Jangid <pankaj@codeisgreat.org> writes:

>> But (1) it is not only *our* decision, it's also in the hands of the
>> Emacs maintainers, which may think otherwise; (2) all the consequences
>> need to be considered, as it is a sensible move; (3) I am on the verge
>> of stepping down as a maintainer, so it is not a good time for me to
>> push into a direction or another.
>
> I sensed (3) when I saw an email (last month I guess) about assimilating
> parts of Org into Emacs. While that is a good idea. But I don’t have a
> very good feeling about you leaving. You have contributed so much. You
> have maintained it so well.
>
> I can understand how it feels when people complain about features. And
> sometimes they blame the maintainers for some specific product
> directions. But it is bound to happen when they are also attached to the
> product. I hope these things have not shaped up your decision. It
> happens in a closely knit family.

Thanks a lot for the kind words, appreciated.

Be reassured, the fact that I shall soon step down has nothing to do
with the community: in fact, the community is what kept me motivated
for nearly ten years now!

This decision is a simple combination of me not having enough time
(which can lead to frustrating situations for other contributors) and
the fact that I'm confident about Org's future.

>> Anyway, I don't think now is the right time to consider this move, as
>> there are many more things to achieve. I suggest we discuss this again
>> later next year.
>
> Yes. This is endless. We’ll continue this...

... but I'm very receptive to the real questions: how can we expose
the latest Org to more testers? how can we recruit more contributors?

If at some point developing Org within Emacs seems to be part of a
good solution, I'll be all for it.  I definitely prefer this scenario
to the one where Org is kicked out Emacs core and moved to a separate,
not-installed-by-default, GNU ELPA package.

Best,

-- 
 Bastien


  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-16  6:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-14  7:04 Bastien
2020-12-14 14:10 ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-12-14 14:18   ` Bastien
2020-12-14 15:19     ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-12-15 11:38       ` Eric S Fraga
2020-12-15 13:58         ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-12-15 14:24           ` Bastien
2020-12-16  3:59             ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-12-16  6:19               ` Bastien [this message]
2020-12-16  7:00                 ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-12-16  7:14                 ` TEC
2020-12-16 13:04                   ` Gustav Wikström
2020-12-16 13:49                     ` Eric S Fraga
2020-12-16 14:11                       ` Gustav Wikström
2020-12-16 14:50                         ` Eric S Fraga
2020-12-16 15:05                           ` Gustav Wikström
2020-12-29  9:42                             ` TEC
2020-12-29 12:14                               ` Gustav Wikström
2020-12-16 15:13                       ` Loris Bennett
2020-12-16 19:01                         ` Tim Cross
2020-12-17 13:27                         ` Eric S Fraga
2020-12-17 15:32                           ` Greg Minshall
2020-12-17 23:19                             ` Samuel Wales
2020-12-16 14:56                     ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-12-16 18:41                     ` Tim Cross
2020-12-22 14:27                       ` Lennart C. Karssen
2020-12-22 15:07                         ` TEC
2020-12-22 16:18                           ` Bastien
2020-12-22 19:46                             ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15 21:12           ` Daniele Nicolodi
2020-12-16  5:19             ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-12-18 21:49 Asa Zeren
2020-12-21 12:25 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-01-02 22:45 ` TRS-80

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