From: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>
To: Pankaj Jangid <pankaj@codeisgreat.org>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Release Org 9.4.2
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 07:19:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87czzajms2.fsf@bzg.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wnxiv1te.fsf@codeisgreat.org> (Pankaj Jangid's message of "Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:29:09 +0530")
Pankaj Jangid <pankaj@codeisgreat.org> writes:
>> But (1) it is not only *our* decision, it's also in the hands of the
>> Emacs maintainers, which may think otherwise; (2) all the consequences
>> need to be considered, as it is a sensible move; (3) I am on the verge
>> of stepping down as a maintainer, so it is not a good time for me to
>> push into a direction or another.
>
> I sensed (3) when I saw an email (last month I guess) about assimilating
> parts of Org into Emacs. While that is a good idea. But I don’t have a
> very good feeling about you leaving. You have contributed so much. You
> have maintained it so well.
>
> I can understand how it feels when people complain about features. And
> sometimes they blame the maintainers for some specific product
> directions. But it is bound to happen when they are also attached to the
> product. I hope these things have not shaped up your decision. It
> happens in a closely knit family.
Thanks a lot for the kind words, appreciated.
Be reassured, the fact that I shall soon step down has nothing to do
with the community: in fact, the community is what kept me motivated
for nearly ten years now!
This decision is a simple combination of me not having enough time
(which can lead to frustrating situations for other contributors) and
the fact that I'm confident about Org's future.
>> Anyway, I don't think now is the right time to consider this move, as
>> there are many more things to achieve. I suggest we discuss this again
>> later next year.
>
> Yes. This is endless. We’ll continue this...
... but I'm very receptive to the real questions: how can we expose
the latest Org to more testers? how can we recruit more contributors?
If at some point developing Org within Emacs seems to be part of a
good solution, I'll be all for it. I definitely prefer this scenario
to the one where Org is kicked out Emacs core and moved to a separate,
not-installed-by-default, GNU ELPA package.
Best,
--
Bastien
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-16 6:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-14 7:04 Release Org 9.4.2 Bastien
2020-12-14 14:10 ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-12-14 14:18 ` Bastien
2020-12-14 15:19 ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-12-15 11:38 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-12-15 13:58 ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-12-15 14:24 ` Bastien
2020-12-16 3:59 ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-12-16 6:19 ` Bastien [this message]
2020-12-16 7:00 ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-12-16 7:14 ` TEC
2020-12-16 13:04 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-12-16 13:49 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-12-16 14:11 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-12-16 14:50 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-12-16 15:05 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-12-29 9:42 ` TEC
2020-12-29 12:14 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-12-16 15:13 ` Loris Bennett
2020-12-16 19:01 ` Tim Cross
2020-12-17 13:27 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-12-17 15:32 ` Greg Minshall
2020-12-17 23:19 ` Samuel Wales
2020-12-16 14:56 ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-12-16 18:41 ` Tim Cross
2020-12-22 14:27 ` Lennart C. Karssen
2020-12-22 15:07 ` TEC
2020-12-22 16:18 ` Bastien
2020-12-22 19:46 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15 21:12 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2020-12-16 5:19 ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-12-18 21:49 Asa Zeren
2020-12-21 12:25 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-01-02 22:45 ` TRS-80
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
List information: https://www.orgmode.org/
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=87czzajms2.fsf@bzg.fr \
--to=bzg@gnu.org \
--cc=emacs-orgmode@gnu.org \
--cc=pankaj@codeisgreat.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).