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From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 09:08:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bllol125.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20200608045506.GB20150@dcvr

Eric Wong <e@yhbt.net> writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> wrote:
>> Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com> writes:
>> 
>> > [ +cc Eric Wong, mostly to say thanks for all the work he puts into
>> >   public-inbox, which is the software behind these archives, but also so
>> >   that he can correct me if I misrepresent any capabilities of or plans
>> >   for public-inbox ]
>> 
>> Thanks for this response, Kyle (and thanks for public-inbox, Eric)!
>
> you're welcome, both :>
>
>> You wouldn't really use one backend (nnweb) to provide search support
>> for another (nntp). nnir can assign different search engines to
>> different backends -- what a "search engine" boils down to is a function
>> that accepts group search criteria, and returns groups and article
>> numbers (and optional relevance scoring) for matching messages. So if
>> public-inbox had some sort of an API that accepted a query and returned
>> the above information in some sort of easily-digestible format, it
>> wouldn't be hard to write a engine for it. Articles referenced in the
>> search results would then be retrieved via NNTP, so the article numbers
>> would need to correspond.
>
> Fwiw, I've been trying to avoid exposing NNTP article numbers in
> the HTTP endpoint in favor of Message-IDs because serial numbers
> aren't decentralization-friendly.  Of course, sometimes
> Message-IDs get reused, so public-inbox will return all messages
> which match a particular Message-ID in those rare cases.
>
> Btw, POST with the "&x=m" query parameter already allows search
> to return a gzipped mboxrd.
>
> And also what I just wrote about about JMAP/GraphQL in the other
> message.
>
> A read-only IMAP server is also coming with search support,
> and IMAP UIDs will be equivalent to NNTP article numbers.

Sounds like something in there is bound to work! IMAP might be best --
while it's certainly possible to do Message-ID<->article number lookups,
that will slow Gnus down further, and it's already fairly slow.

Thanks again,
Eric



  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-12 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-05  7:47 New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/ Bastien
2020-06-05  8:43 ` Marco Wahl
2020-06-06  8:15   ` Bastien
2020-06-05  9:39 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-06-05 10:51   ` Bastien
2020-06-05 11:24     ` Diego Zamboni
2020-06-05 14:04       ` Bastien
2020-06-05 15:47 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-06-08  3:29   ` Kyle Meyer
2020-06-08  4:39     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-06-08  4:55       ` Eric Wong
2020-06-12 16:08         ` Eric Abrahamsen [this message]
2020-06-14  6:17           ` Kyle Meyer
2020-06-18 16:39             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-06-18 17:11               ` Kyle Meyer
2020-06-18 17:18                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-06-18 17:43                   ` Colin Baxter
2020-06-19  3:01                   ` Kyle Meyer
2020-06-19  8:02                     ` Eric Wong
2020-06-19 17:37                       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-06-08  4:47     ` Eric Wong
2020-08-14 10:39 ` mailing list archive link in FAQ Maxim Nikulin
2020-08-14 11:16   ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-08-15 20:25     ` Kyle Meyer
2020-08-17 16:01       ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-08-17 23:55         ` Kyle Meyer

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