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From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
To: Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Eric Wong <e@yhbt.net>
Subject: Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 09:39:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a71072hc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r1uikw7z.fsf@kyleam.com> (Kyle Meyer's message of "Sun, 14 Jun 2020 06:17:04 +0000")

Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com> writes:

> [ adding Eric Wong back to the cc ]
>
> Eric Abrahamsen writes:
>
>> Eric Wong <e@yhbt.net> writes:
>>> Fwiw, I've been trying to avoid exposing NNTP article numbers in
>>> the HTTP endpoint in favor of Message-IDs because serial numbers
>>> aren't decentralization-friendly.  Of course, sometimes
>>> Message-IDs get reused, so public-inbox will return all messages
>>> which match a particular Message-ID in those rare cases.
>>>
>>> Btw, POST with the "&x=m" query parameter already allows search
>>> to return a gzipped mboxrd.
>>>
>>> And also what I just wrote about about JMAP/GraphQL in the other
>>> message.
>>>
>>> A read-only IMAP server is also coming with search support,
>>> and IMAP UIDs will be equivalent to NNTP article numbers.
>>
>> Sounds like something in there is bound to work! IMAP might be best --
>> while it's certainly possible to do Message-ID<->article number lookups,
>> that will slow Gnus down further, and it's already fairly slow.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Eric
>
> Here are the recent patches that Eric sent out related to the read-only
> IMAP server:
>
>   https://public-inbox.org/meta/20200610070519.18252-1-e@yhbt.net
>
> It's already available at <imaps://news.public-inbox.org/>.  I've played
> around with that a bit in Mutt and Gnus, and it seems to work nicely.
> As I mentioned before, I don't really search much in Gnus, but I tried
> some basic queries via GG and the results looked reasonable.
>
> I set this up for news.yhetil.org tonight.  Here's what I used to test
> it out:
>
> ;; Set so that all groups/folders aren't subscribed and synced.  Think
> ;; I should be able to prevent that with `gnus-options-not-subscribe'
> ;; or `gnus-auto-subscribed-groups', but didn't have any luck.
> (setq gnus-check-new-newsgroups nil)
>
> (setq gnus-select-method '(nnimap "news.yhetil.org"
>                                   ;; no certs yet
>                                   (nnimap-stream plain)))

Hmm, I tried this (adding to `gnus-secondary-select-methods'), and got:

Warning: Opening nnimap server on news.yhetil.org...failed: NO Mailbox
doesn't exist: DOES.NOT.EXIST (0.001 + 0.000 secs).; Unable to open
server nnimap+news.yhetil.org due to: make client process failed:
Network is unreachable, :name, *nnimap*, :buffer, *nnimap
news.yhetil.org nil *nntpd**, :host, news.yhetil.org, :service, imap,
:coding, nil

The "mailbox doesn't exist" thing seems to be misleading: further
attempts to connect to the server just gave me "network is unreachable".
I wonder if this has something to do with my tls settings? I'll set
`gnutls-log-level' to 2 and try again... Nope, same error.

This is on Emacs master, I'm not sure what else I can check (though I
still suspect it's something to do with connection security).

Eric


  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-18 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-05  7:47 New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/ Bastien
2020-06-05  8:43 ` Marco Wahl
2020-06-06  8:15   ` Bastien
2020-06-05  9:39 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-06-05 10:51   ` Bastien
2020-06-05 11:24     ` Diego Zamboni
2020-06-05 14:04       ` Bastien
2020-06-05 15:47 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-06-08  3:29   ` Kyle Meyer
2020-06-08  4:39     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-06-08  4:55       ` Eric Wong
2020-06-12 16:08         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-06-14  6:17           ` Kyle Meyer
2020-06-18 16:39             ` Eric Abrahamsen [this message]
2020-06-18 17:11               ` Kyle Meyer
2020-06-18 17:18                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-06-18 17:43                   ` Colin Baxter
2020-06-19  3:01                   ` Kyle Meyer
2020-06-19  8:02                     ` Eric Wong
2020-06-19 17:37                       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-06-08  4:47     ` Eric Wong
2020-08-14 10:39 ` mailing list archive link in FAQ Maxim Nikulin
2020-08-14 11:16   ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-08-15 20:25     ` Kyle Meyer
2020-08-17 16:01       ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-08-17 23:55         ` Kyle Meyer

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