* Massive Org search
@ 2012-01-04 15:23 François Pinard
2012-01-04 15:48 ` Bastien
2012-01-04 15:49 ` Bernt Hansen
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From: François Pinard @ 2012-01-04 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi, Org people.
I'm a rather recent Org mode user. Consolidating my previous data into
Org mode gave 385 files using 5,5 Mb. I quickly found out that this is
too much for Org mode, if I want to be able to search it all using Org
mode means. So, I segregated a handful of agenda files, and developed a
small tool for when I need a massive org search (which is often). Let
me share it, in case useful to others. For the code, see:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6554110/emacs-outline-mode-auto-expand-upon-grep/8439425
The idea is simple: just use a recursive grep and normal compile-type
buffer and commands, yet add a bit of code to reveal hidden text which
is being located by the compile commands. Also manage so that a mere
C-s on the located buffer immediately show all occurrences.
François
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* Re: Massive Org search
2012-01-04 15:23 Massive Org search François Pinard
@ 2012-01-04 15:48 ` Bastien
2012-01-04 16:45 ` François Pinard
2012-01-04 15:49 ` Bernt Hansen
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From: Bastien @ 2012-01-04 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: François Pinard; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi François,
pinard@iro.umontreal.ca (François Pinard) writes:
> I'm a rather recent Org mode user. Consolidating my previous data into
> Org mode gave 385 files using 5,5 Mb. I quickly found out that this is
> too much for Org mode, if I want to be able to search it all using Org
> mode means. So, I segregated a handful of agenda files, and developed a
> small tool for when I need a massive org search (which is often). Let
> me share it, in case useful to others. For the code, see:
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6554110/emacs-outline-mode-auto-expand-upon-grep/8439425
>
> The idea is simple: just use a recursive grep and normal compile-type
> buffer and commands, yet add a bit of code to reveal hidden text which
> is being located by the compile commands. Also manage so that a mere
> C-s on the located buffer immediately show all occurrences.
I guess your code runs faster, but you might be interested in
M-x org-occur-in-agenda-files RET
HTH,
--
Bastien
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* Re: Massive Org search
2012-01-04 15:48 ` Bastien
@ 2012-01-04 16:45 ` François Pinard
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From: François Pinard @ 2012-01-04 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:
> I guess your code runs faster, but you might be interested in
> M-x org-occur-in-agenda-files RET
Unless I remember wrongly, I tried it. With many agenda files, Org
became too slow for my needs. So, I thought I was unreasonable, and
managed to keep only a few agenda files, and made the little code I
shown you, as a (reasonable) compromise.
I guess that with fewer files, I would not have felt any problem.
François
P.S. This morning, I created a table with nearly 2000 entries. The
initial creation took a few seconds, but then, the updating afterwards
is much faster than I expected, it is even quite workable. I suspect
(without knowing) that much attention has been paid to these aspects.
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* Re: Massive Org search
2012-01-04 15:23 Massive Org search François Pinard
2012-01-04 15:48 ` Bastien
@ 2012-01-04 15:49 ` Bernt Hansen
2012-01-04 16:51 ` François Pinard
2012-01-04 19:17 ` Org-mode performance (was: Massive Org search) Karl Voit
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From: Bernt Hansen @ 2012-01-04 15:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: François Pinard; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
pinard@iro.umontreal.ca (François Pinard) writes:
> Hi, Org people.
>
> I'm a rather recent Org mode user. Consolidating my previous data into
> Org mode gave 385 files using 5,5 Mb. I quickly found out that this is
> too much for Org mode, if I want to be able to search it all using Org
> mode means.
Maybe it's the number of files... I have 91 files (including .org and
.org_archive) totalling 12M without any issues.
Regards,
Bernt
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* Re: Massive Org search
2012-01-04 15:49 ` Bernt Hansen
@ 2012-01-04 16:51 ` François Pinard
2012-01-04 19:17 ` Org-mode performance (was: Massive Org search) Karl Voit
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From: François Pinard @ 2012-01-04 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bernt Hansen; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> writes:
>> I'm a rather recent Org mode user. Consolidating my previous data into
>> Org mode gave 385 files using 5,5 Mb. I quickly found out that this is
>> too much for Org mode, if I want to be able to search it all using Org
>> mode means.
> Maybe it's the number of files... I have 91 files (including .org and
> .org_archive) totalling 12M without any issues.
Hi, Bernt. I did not have any issue either, besides the slowness. If
you can handle 12M of agenda files briskly, maybe I should retry once
I'll have some more Org experience. Thanks for your feedback.
François
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* Org-mode performance (was: Massive Org search)
2012-01-04 15:49 ` Bernt Hansen
2012-01-04 16:51 ` François Pinard
@ 2012-01-04 19:17 ` Karl Voit
2012-01-05 13:14 ` Org-mode performance Karl Voit
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From: Karl Voit @ 2012-01-04 19:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
* Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> wrote:
>
> Maybe it's the number of files... I have 91 files (including .org and
> .org_archive) totalling 12M without any issues.
In the Memacs-project[1] we do face certain performance issues with
large data sets in Org-mode. Therefore we are currently developing
and running benchmarks.
I'll post here the results.
What usually helps is: keeping the vast amount of (old?) data in
.org_archive files. This speeds up daily work while giving you the
opportunity to activate the rest of it on demand.
1. https://github.com/novoid/Memacs
--
Karl Voit
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* Re: Org-mode performance
2012-01-04 19:17 ` Org-mode performance (was: Massive Org search) Karl Voit
@ 2012-01-05 13:14 ` Karl Voit
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From: Karl Voit @ 2012-01-05 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
* Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> wrote:
> * Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe it's the number of files... I have 91 files (including .org and
>> .org_archive) totalling 12M without any issues.
>
> In the Memacs-project[1] we do face certain performance issues with
> large data sets in Org-mode. Therefore we are currently developing
> and running benchmarks.
>
> I'll post here the results.
>
> 1. https://github.com/novoid/Memacs
We've got some simple benchmark results for larger data sets within
Org-mode files:
https://github.com/novoid/Memacs/blob/master/performance.org
(Sorry, «many Org-mode files» was no issue at our side, so we did
not research into that.)
In short:
* Best performance: only without any drawers at all
* Acceptable performance when using another drawer than :PROPERTIES:
* Worst performance when using :PROPERTIES: drawer
So if you want to have many entries in Org-mode files, avoid drawers
if you can. If you need a drawer, probably choose to define your own
drawer.
--
Karl Voit
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