* Binding org-insert-todo-heading to M-S-RET
@ 2019-01-11 18:32 Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-01-12 10:55 ` Nicolas Goaziou
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From: Kévin Le Gouguec @ 2019-01-11 18:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hello!
Here is a very minor gripe I have with org-mode: is there a reason why
org-insert-todo-heading should be bound to (kbd "M-S-<return>"), rather
than (kbd "M-S-RET")?
AFAIU, using "<return>" limits the key binding to the actual "⏎"
function key, while using "RET" makes any key chord that sends the
"carriage return" character ("⏎" and "C-m") work transparently.
I admit that Alt-Shift-Control-M sounds unwieldy, but my muscle memory
has become so accustomed to using "C-m" instead of "<return>" that I
would welcome a change allowing this alternative.
(
From my understanding of (emacs)Keymaps and (emacs)Named ASCII
Chars, using "RET" also has the advantage that bindings can work in
terminals; IIUC terminals translate presses to "⏎" into the "RET"
control character, so Emacs never knows that "<return>" was pressed.
However in this particular case I don't believe that the argument
applies, since AFAIK terminals cannot transmit "S-RET" to Emacs.
"M-RET" works though, precisely because it uses "RET" and not
"<return>".
)
Thank you for your time.
PS: I found a relatively recent thread discussing this issue:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2017-06/msg00580.html
I am happy that there exist alternative key bindings for terminal
environments; however, I don't think this thread explains why org-mode
uses "<return>" rather than "RET".
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* Re: Binding org-insert-todo-heading to M-S-RET
2019-01-11 18:32 Binding org-insert-todo-heading to M-S-RET Kévin Le Gouguec
@ 2019-01-12 10:55 ` Nicolas Goaziou
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From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2019-01-12 10:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kévin Le Gouguec; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hello,
Kévin Le Gouguec <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com> writes:
> Here is a very minor gripe I have with org-mode: is there a reason why
> org-insert-todo-heading should be bound to (kbd "M-S-<return>"), rather
> than (kbd "M-S-RET")?
>
> AFAIU, using "<return>" limits the key binding to the actual "⏎"
> function key, while using "RET" makes any key chord that sends the
> "carriage return" character ("⏎" and "C-m") work transparently.
>
> I admit that Alt-Shift-Control-M sounds unwieldy, but my muscle memory
> has become so accustomed to using "C-m" instead of "<return>" that I
> would welcome a change allowing this alternative.
>
> (
> From my understanding of (emacs)Keymaps and (emacs)Named ASCII
> Chars, using "RET" also has the advantage that bindings can work in
> terminals; IIUC terminals translate presses to "⏎" into the "RET"
> control character, so Emacs never knows that "<return>" was pressed.
>
> However in this particular case I don't believe that the argument
> applies, since AFAIK terminals cannot transmit "S-RET" to Emacs.
> "M-RET" works though, precisely because it uses "RET" and not
> "<return>".
> )
>
> Thank you for your time.
Fair enough. I changed a few <return> to RET in master.
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
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