From: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
To: "Juan Manuel Macías" <maciaschain@posteo.net>
Cc: Maxim Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>,
Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>,
Matt Huszagh <huszaghmatt@gmail.com>,
"Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.online>,
Dominik Schrempf <dominik.schrempf@gmail.com>,
orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX?
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 09:49:28 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877d4lg7q3.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sfna8v37.fsf@posteo.net>
Juan Manuel Macías <maciaschain@posteo.net> writes:
> Hi, Tim, thank you for your comments,
>
> Tim Cross writes:
>
>> Juan, I think it would be great to add your post to worg. I'm happy to
>> do this, but I think it wold also be good if we could include a basic
>> 'setup' i.e. what changes people might need to (or should do to maximise
>> benefit) in order to try out luatex. For example, what settings to put
>> in org-latex-pdf-process (I'm guessing something like "lualatex
>> -interaction nonstopmode -output-directory %o %f") and what (if any)
>> packages to add/remove from the org-latex-packages-alist etc (I'm
>> guessing that perhaps some font related packages may need tweaking?).
>>
>> Ideally, what would be good is a very simple recipe for what someone
>> should do in order to try out luatex and get the most out of it (or at
>> least see potential).
>
> I have no problem with my post being added to worg, but I don't have
> much experience in working with worg... Of course, I can prepare
> everything you need, if you think it might be useful.
>
> The *only* difference between a minimal document for lualatex and a
> minimal document for pdfLaTeX is that for LuaLaTeX it is not necessary
> to load the fontenc and inputenc packages. The following mwe
> compiles perfectly in LuaLaTeX:
>
> \documentclass{article}
> \begin{document}
> Hello world!
> á é í ó ú ñ à è ì ò ù
> \end{document}
>
> LuaTeX defaults to an otf version of the Computer Modern font, so any
> user who isn't interested in fonts and writing in non-Latin languages,
> but wants to work in a real Unicode environment, won't need to fine-tune
> fonts, nor load any special package. The rest is exactly the same as any
> document for pdfLaTeX.
>
> If in the Org document is added:
>
> #+LATEX_COMPILER: lualatex
>
> the fontenc and inputenc packages are not loaded in the output, which is
> correct and it is the minimum requirement for LuaLaTeX. I think Org is
> already doing a good job here.
>
> If the user wants to use other fonts, the fontspec package must be
> loaded. Depending on the user's needs, you can go from the simplest to
> the most complex configurations (the different options and possibilities
> are explained in detail in the fontspec manual). The simplest: if a user
> just wants to use the Times New Roman font as the main font in his
> document, this lines would suffice:
>
> \usepackage{fontspec}
> \setmainfont{Times New Roman}
>
> That is, by indicating the name of the family (Times New Roman), luatex
> would use this family for normal text, italics, bold, etc. Of course,
> it's a good idea to load a family that has italic, bold, bold italic,
> and other subtypes. Fontspec has tons more options, but this would be
> the basics. But I think this aspect is more on the LaTeX side than in
> the Org side.
>
> LuaTeX can use the fonts installed on the system, without the need to
> add more (that is, simply by putting the name of the family, LuaTeX
> accesses them); and you can also use any font in any directory, just by
> giving the path. I wrote BTW this little package to preview any font in
> Emacs, and test the opentype features. it uses org-latex-preview in the
> background and compiles with LuaTeX:
>
> https://gitlab.com/maciaschain/org-font-spec-preview
>
Thanks Juan. It will be fairly trivial to compile the information you
have provided into a basic org document which I can then add to org. If
on the other hand you would prefer to write it up, all I need is an org
document which is based on the (current) org 'worg' template, which is
very simple i.e.
#+:begin_src org
#+TITLE: [No title for now, please update]
#+AUTHOR: Worg people
#+OPTIONS: H:3 num:nil toc:t \n:nil ::t |:t ^:t -:t f:t *:t tex:t d:(HIDE) tags:not-in-toc
#+STARTUP: align fold nodlcheck hidestars oddeven lognotestate
#+SEQ_TODO: TODO(t) INPROGRESS(i) WAITING(w@) | DONE(d) CANCELED(c@)
#+TAGS: Write(w) Update(u) Fix(f) Check(c)
#+LANGUAGE: en
#+PRIORITIES: A C B
#+CATEGORY: worg
#+HTML_LINK_UP: index.html
#+HTML_LINK_HOME: https://orgmode.org/worg/
# This file is released by its authors and contributors under the GNU
# Free Documentation license v1.3 or later, code examples are released
# under the GNU General Public License v3 or later.
# This file is the default header for new Org files in Worg. Feel free
# to tailor it to your needs.
#+end_src
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-09 23:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-08 12:17 LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX? Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-08 15:49 ` Uwe Brauer
2022-07-08 16:46 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-08 15:54 ` Greg Minshall
2022-07-08 16:13 ` Thomas S. Dye
2022-07-08 17:27 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-07-08 19:03 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-08 18:49 ` Thomas S. Dye
2022-07-09 2:23 ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-09 3:23 ` Thomas S. Dye
2022-07-09 11:10 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-09 3:24 ` Tim Cross
2022-07-09 3:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-09 4:10 ` Tim Cross
2022-07-09 5:35 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-07-09 6:31 ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-09 9:59 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-09 23:49 ` Tim Cross [this message]
2022-07-10 11:19 ` M-x org-create-worg-article command? (was: LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX?) Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-10 19:06 ` Tim Cross
2022-07-11 2:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-11 2:49 ` Tim Cross
2022-07-11 3:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-11 4:00 ` Tim Cross
2022-07-11 4:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-10 19:31 ` LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX? Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-09 10:42 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-09 12:15 ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-09 14:58 ` Juan Manuel Macías
[not found] ` <b58ee3cc-c58c-b627-9cc5-51993020db2c@gmail.com>
2022-07-09 20:22 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-10 20:23 ` [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful...") Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-10 20:31 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-10 20:58 ` Tim Cross
2022-07-11 13:34 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-11 2:19 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-11 7:50 ` Stefan Nobis
2022-07-11 14:19 ` Timothy
2022-07-11 15:00 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-11 17:45 ` fontsets (was: [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful...")) Timothy
2022-07-11 22:09 ` fontsets Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-12 7:12 ` fontsets Stefan Nobis
2022-07-12 11:37 ` fontsets Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-12 15:26 ` Fallback fonts in LuaTeX via 'luaotfload.add_fallback' (was "Fontsets") Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-15 14:35 ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-11 3:59 ` [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful...") Greg Minshall
2022-07-11 8:05 ` Stefan Nobis
2022-07-11 11:39 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-11 12:04 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-11 12:31 ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-11 14:23 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-11 17:20 ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-16 3:01 ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-11 17:08 ` LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX? Max Nikulin
2022-07-10 2:12 ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-09 0:34 ` Matt Huszagh
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