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From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX?
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 00:08:30 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <tahleg$vcq$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tu7qnij4.fsf@posteo.net>

On 10/07/2022 03:22, Juan Manuel Macías wrote:
> 
> LuaTeX and XeTeX are
> digital typesetting systems. They are not word processors.

I have skimmed through the discussion happened exactly a year ago
https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/scuirf$m7o$1@ciao.gmane.io/
and I should repeat that you are too much concentrated on books and 
carefully designed camera-ready files.

LaTeX is a kind of word processor as well in the sense that it is used 
for notes that are not intended to be published. In some cases it is 
merely a tool to make readable a text heavy loaded with math. Balance of 
efforts and quality is quite different. As much as possible should be 
delegated to "word processor". Forcing users to select particular fonts 
makes documents less portable, it increases a chance that a colleague 
does not have a font installed on your machine or you get a file 
requiring a proprietary font you do not have.

For such quick notes the feature currently provided by browser, office, 
etc. is indispensable: list of implicit fallbacks to find some available 
font having glyphs missed in the primary fonts.

I do not mind that LuaLaTeX alleviated issues with configuring of fonts, 
so it is more convenient for books or decorated documents. Personally I 
was quite happy with PdfLaTeX fonts I get out of the box without 
necessity to override ≥ 6 font families. I did not use hieroglyphs or 
fancy Unicode characters, but with LuaLaTeX they anyway require setting 
of additional fonts. My current impression is that LuaLaTeX may be 
significant step forward for publishers, but for quick notes it is a 
kind of trade-off.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-07-11 17:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-08 12:17 LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX? Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-08 15:49 ` Uwe Brauer
2022-07-08 16:46   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-08 15:54 ` Greg Minshall
2022-07-08 16:13 ` Thomas S. Dye
2022-07-08 17:27 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-07-08 19:03   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-08 18:49 ` Thomas S. Dye
2022-07-09  2:23   ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-09  3:23     ` Thomas S. Dye
2022-07-09 11:10       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-09  3:24     ` Tim Cross
2022-07-09  3:50       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-09  4:10         ` Tim Cross
2022-07-09  5:35           ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-07-09  6:31         ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-09  9:59       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-09 23:49         ` Tim Cross
2022-07-10 11:19           ` M-x org-create-worg-article command? (was: LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX?) Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-10 19:06             ` Tim Cross
2022-07-11  2:09               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-11  2:49                 ` Tim Cross
2022-07-11  3:18                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-11  4:00                     ` Tim Cross
2022-07-11  4:20                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-10 19:31           ` LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX? Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-09 10:42     ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-09 12:15       ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-09 14:58         ` Juan Manuel Macías
     [not found]           ` <b58ee3cc-c58c-b627-9cc5-51993020db2c@gmail.com>
2022-07-09 20:22             ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-10 20:23               ` [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful...") Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-10 20:31                 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-10 20:58                 ` Tim Cross
2022-07-11 13:34                   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-11  2:19                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-11  7:50                   ` Stefan Nobis
2022-07-11 14:19                   ` Timothy
2022-07-11 15:00                     ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-11 17:45                       ` fontsets (was: [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful...")) Timothy
2022-07-11 22:09                         ` fontsets Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-12  7:12                           ` fontsets Stefan Nobis
2022-07-12 11:37                             ` fontsets Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-12 15:26                               ` Fallback fonts in LuaTeX via 'luaotfload.add_fallback' (was "Fontsets") Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-15 14:35                                 ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-11  3:59                 ` [possible patch] Basic fontspec code for LuaLaTeX and XelaTeX (was "LaTeX export: when is it more useful...") Greg Minshall
2022-07-11  8:05                 ` Stefan Nobis
2022-07-11 11:39                   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-11 12:04                     ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-11 12:31                 ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-11 14:23                   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-11 17:20                     ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-16  3:01                     ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-11 17:08               ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2022-07-10  2:12           ` LaTeX export: when is it more useful to use LuaTeX instead of pdfTeX? Max Nikulin
2022-07-09  0:34 ` Matt Huszagh

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