* Orgmode → ODT: Certain chars break export
@ 2015-02-13 10:45 Tory S. Anderson
2015-02-13 11:04 ` Rasmus
2015-02-14 8:50 ` Vaidheeswaran
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From: Tory S. Anderson @ 2015-02-13 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: orgmode list
While we're on the topic of ODT export problems: I was in the process of converting PDF to Text to Org to ODT/DocX and discovered that certain characters seem to break exported odt documents, which fail with a line and col number. So far the only one I know for sure is the "\f" (Char: C-l (12, #o14, #xc)). Hopefully a single fix can handle all such cases.
You probably don't need it, but I verified with the following file:
http://toryanderson.com/files/breakorg.org
Org-mode version 8.2.10 (8.2.10-32-gddaa1d-elpa)
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* Re: Orgmode → ODT: Certain chars break export
2015-02-13 10:45 Orgmode → ODT: Certain chars break export Tory S. Anderson
@ 2015-02-13 11:04 ` Rasmus
2015-02-13 15:18 ` Tory S. Anderson
2015-02-14 8:50 ` Vaidheeswaran
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From: Rasmus @ 2015-02-13 11:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
torys.anderson@gmail.com (Tory S. Anderson) writes:
> While we're on the topic of ODT export problems: I was in the process
> of converting PDF to Text to Org to ODT/DocX and discovered that
> certain characters seem to break exported odt documents, which fail
> with a line and col number. So far the only one I know for sure is the
> "\f" (Char: C-l (12, #o14, #xc)). Hopefully a single fix can handle
> all such cases.
>
> You probably don't need it, but I verified with the following file:
> http://toryanderson.com/files/breakorg.org
The export is fine, but the produced XML is invalid since it contains an
illegal character. But how to resolve this? Should ox strip illegal
charterers (if so what are they)? If so, could they be used for entities?
—Rasmus
--
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* Re: Orgmode → ODT: Certain chars break export
2015-02-13 11:04 ` Rasmus
@ 2015-02-13 15:18 ` Tory S. Anderson
2015-02-13 16:07 ` Rasmus
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From: Tory S. Anderson @ 2015-02-13 15:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
From a user perspective just stripping the characters seems best to me, but finding out what the characters seems obnoxious. Neither a quick search nor skimming the ODT doc specification[1][2] seem to give any insight into a set of illegal characters. Does elisp have anything similar to Java's "isWhitespace"[3] that could be used to check character features?
Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
> torys.anderson@gmail.com (Tory S. Anderson) writes:
>
>> While we're on the topic of ODT export problems: I was in the process
>> of converting PDF to Text to Org to ODT/DocX and discovered that
>> certain characters seem to break exported odt documents, which fail
>> with a line and col number. So far the only one I know for sure is the
>> "\f" (Char: C-l (12, #o14, #xc)). Hopefully a single fix can handle
>> all such cases.
>>
>> You probably don't need it, but I verified with the following file:
>> http://toryanderson.com/files/breakorg.org
>
> The export is fine, but the produced XML is invalid since it contains an
> illegal character. But how to resolve this? Should ox strip illegal
> charterers (if so what are they)? If so, could they be used for entities?
>
> —Rasmus
Footnotes:
[1] https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=office
[2] http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part1.html#__RefHeading__1415196_253892949
[3] http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/000c/index.htm
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* Re: Orgmode → ODT: Certain chars break export
2015-02-13 15:18 ` Tory S. Anderson
@ 2015-02-13 16:07 ` Rasmus
2015-02-13 16:41 ` Tory S. Anderson
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Rasmus @ 2015-02-13 16:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
torys.anderson@gmail.com (Tory S. Anderson) writes:
> From a user perspective just stripping the characters seems best to
> me, but finding out what the characters seems obnoxious.
But maybe there is a valid way to represent such characters in XML? At
the very least entities must be replaced before stripping these...
> Neither a quick search nor skimming the ODT doc specification[1][2] seem
> to give any insight into a set of illegal characters. Does elisp have
> anything similar to Java's "isWhitespace"[3] that could be used to check
> character features?
It's an XML thing. When I tried to open the contents.xml with Firefox it
also says broken XML. But I also don't know which are the characters that
are not supported by XML.
—Rasmus
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This space is left intentionally blank
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* Re: Orgmode → ODT: Certain chars break export
2015-02-13 16:07 ` Rasmus
@ 2015-02-13 16:41 ` Tory S. Anderson
2015-02-14 1:18 ` Rasmus
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From: Tory S. Anderson @ 2015-02-13 16:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rasmus; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
There is a helpful wiki page now that you found XML; it even mentions my specific character.[1] The main source seems to be at the w3.org spec.[2]
Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
> torys.anderson@gmail.com (Tory S. Anderson) writes:
>
>> From a user perspective just stripping the characters seems best to
>> me, but finding out what the characters seems obnoxious.
>
> But maybe there is a valid way to represent such characters in XML? At
> the very least entities must be replaced before stripping these...
>
>> Neither a quick search nor skimming the ODT doc specification[1][2] seem
>> to give any insight into a set of illegal characters. Does elisp have
>> anything similar to Java's "isWhitespace"[3] that could be used to check
>> character features?
>
> It's an XML thing. When I tried to open the contents.xml with Firefox it
> also says broken XML. But I also don't know which are the characters that
> are not supported by XML.
>
> —Rasmus
Footnotes:
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valid_characters_in_XML#XML_1.1
[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/xml11/#charsets
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* Re: Orgmode → ODT: Certain chars break export
2015-02-13 16:41 ` Tory S. Anderson
@ 2015-02-14 1:18 ` Rasmus
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From: Rasmus @ 2015-02-14 1:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
torys.anderson@gmail.com (Tory S. Anderson) writes:
> There is a helpful wiki page now that you found XML; it even mentions
> my specific character.[1] The main source seems to be at the w3.org
> spec.[2]
I don't understand unicode well enough to propose a solution.
For now you could use a org-export-before-parsing-hook or
org-export-filter-final-output-functions or maybe
org-export-filter-body-functions to solve the issue locally.
—Rasmus
--
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* Re: Orgmode → ODT: Certain chars break export
2015-02-13 10:45 Orgmode → ODT: Certain chars break export Tory S. Anderson
2015-02-13 11:04 ` Rasmus
@ 2015-02-14 8:50 ` Vaidheeswaran
2015-02-14 10:43 ` Vaidheeswaran
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From: Vaidheeswaran @ 2015-02-14 8:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: orgmode list
On Friday 13 February 2015 04:15 PM, Tory S. Anderson wrote:
> While we're on the topic of ODT export problems: I was in the process of converting PDF to Text to Org to ODT/DocX and discovered that certain characters seem to break exported odt documents, which fail with a line and col number. So far the only one I know for sure is the "\f" (Char: C-l (12, #o14, #xc)). Hopefully a single fix can handle all such cases.
>
> You probably don't need it, but I verified with the following file:
> http://toryanderson.com/files/breakorg.org
>
> Org-mode version 8.2.10 (8.2.10-32-gddaa1d-elpa)
>
>
I assume that you are using pdftotext. In that case, you can use the
following argument.
-nopgbrk : don't insert page breaks between pages
That said, it is very difficult to say what the right action should be
when encountering ^L or other problematic characters. Much depends on
the context. Neither an outright removal, or replacement with a
single SPC, a NEWLINE or a double NEWLINE may be
satisfactory. Specifically, in the pdftotext case above, I believe the
best action would be to M-x flush-lines that match ^L so that page
headers are stripped.
----------------------------------------------------------------
From exporter side of things, the best that one could do is to catch
such exceptional cases and report it to the user for further repair.
i.e., Instead of waiting of LibreOffice to catch this exception and
leave the user in utter confusion, the export backend could catch the
error early in the export process and report a useful message.
A variation of following snippet can be used for catching the error
early.
(add-hook
'org-export-before-parsing-hook
(lambda (backend)
(when (eq backend 'odt)
(goto-char (point-min))
(when (re-search-forward
(rx-to-string '(or (in (#x0 . #x8))
(in (#xB . #xC))
(in (#xE. #x1F))
(in (#xD800. #xDFFF))
(in (#xFFFE . #xFFFF))
(in (#x110000 . #x3FFFFF)))) nil t)
(user-error "Input file has a problematic char [%s]."
(format "#x%x" (string-to-char (match-string 0))))))))
The following snippet could be used for outright removal of
problematic characters.
(add-hook
'org-export-before-parsing-hook
(lambda (backend)
(when (eq backend 'odt)
(goto-char (point-min))
(when (re-search-forward
(rx-to-string '(one-or-more
(or (in (#x0 . #x8))
(in (#xB . #xC))
(in (#xE. #x1F))
(in (#xD800. #xDFFF))
(in (#xFFFE . #xFFFF))
(in (#x110000 . #x3FFFFF))))) nil t)
(replace-match "" t t)))))
----------------------------------------------------------------
Note to the developers:
1. xmltok.el has `xmltok-valid-char-p'.
2. From http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/#charsets
/* any Unicode character, excluding the surrogate blocks, FFFE, and FFFF. */
Char ::= #x9 | #xA | #xD | [#x20-#xD7FF] | [#xE000-#xFFFD] |
[#x10000-#x10FFFF]
Document authors are encouraged to avoid "compatibility characters",
as defined in section 2.3 of [Unicode]. The characters defined in the
following ranges are also discouraged. They are either control
characters or permanently undefined Unicode characters:
[#x7F-#x84], [#x86-#x9F], [#xFDD0-#xFDEF],
[#x1FFFE-#x1FFFF], [#x2FFFE-#x2FFFF], [#x3FFFE-#x3FFFF],
[#x4FFFE-#x4FFFF], [#x5FFFE-#x5FFFF], [#x6FFFE-#x6FFFF],
[#x7FFFE-#x7FFFF], [#x8FFFE-#x8FFFF], [#x9FFFE-#x9FFFF],
[#xAFFFE-#xAFFFF], [#xBFFFE-#xBFFFF], [#xCFFFE-#xCFFFF],
[#xDFFFE-#xDFFFF], [#xEFFFE-#xEFFFF], [#xFFFFE-#xFFFFF],
[#x10FFFE-#x10FFFF].
----------------------------------------------------------------
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* Re: Orgmode → ODT: Certain chars break export
2015-02-14 8:50 ` Vaidheeswaran
@ 2015-02-14 10:43 ` Vaidheeswaran
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From: Vaidheeswaran @ 2015-02-14 10:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On Saturday 14 February 2015 02:20 PM, Vaidheeswaran wrote:
> Specifically, in the pdftotext case above, I believe the best action
> would be to M-x flush-lines that match ^L so that page headers are
> stripped.
I was writing from memory. I should have said this instead:
The best action would be to flush page headers 'surrounding' ^L and to
'splice' the paragraph lines (that are split apart) at the pagebreaks.
Essentially, for right repair, human intervention is a rule rather
than an exception.
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