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* Bug: inconsistent handling of empty duration cells in table [9.4.6 (9.4.6-12-gdcc3a8-elpa @ /home/jet/.config/emacs/elpa/org-20210816/)]
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@ 2021-08-22 17:28 ` Jeff Trull
  2021-08-31 11:41   ` Timothy
  2024-04-12 12:10   ` Ihor Radchenko
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Jeff Trull @ 2021-08-22 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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When calc formulas producing empty strings are evaluated in the default
mode, an empty cell is produced. When evaluated in duration mode (U, T,
or t) a zero duration is produced. I feel the behavior should be
consistent with the number formats, producing a empty value instead of a
zero.

Test case:

| case         |   result |
|--------------+----------|
| default mode |          |
| default + E  |          |
| U + E        |    00:00 |
| T + E        | 00:00:00 |
| t + E        |     0.00 |
#+TBLFM: @2$2=string("")::@3$2=string("");E::@4$2=string("");EU::@5
$2=string("");ET::@6$2=string("");Et


Analysis: the problem (if it is a problem) is here:
https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode/src/master/lisp/org-table.el#L2616
The value produced for durations always comes from a call to
string-to-number, which returns 0 for empty strings.
org-table-time-seconds-to-string turns that into a zero duration
string in the requested format. An explicit test for an empty value here
fixes the issue.



Emacs  : GNU Emacs 27.1.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
2.24.32, cairo version 1.16.0)
 of 2020-09-01
Package: Org mode version 9.4.6 (9.4.6-12-gdcc3a8-elpa @
/home/jet/.config/emacs/elpa/org-20210816/)

current state:
==============
(setq
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 org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-babel-configure-edit-buffer
org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
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 org-metadown-hook '(org-babel-pop-to-session-maybe)
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org-defdecode org-def
                   org-read-date-inactive org-ans2 org-ans1
org-columns-current-fmt-compiled
                   org-end-time-was-given org-time-was-given
org-blocked-by-checkboxes org-state
                   org-agenda-headline-snapshot-before-repeat
org-struct-menu org-last-state
                   org-id-track-globally texmathp-why remember-data-file
iswitchb-temp-buflist
                   align-mode-rules-list org-id-overriding-file-name
                   org-indent-indentation-per-level ffap-url-regexp
org-inlinetask-min-level t)
                  nil (add-hook 'change-major-mode-hook 'org-show-all
'append 'local))
                 (closure (*this* org-babel-confirm-evaluate-answer-no t)
nil
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                 (closure (org-table-tab-recognizes-table\.el t) nil
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                 #[0 "\301\211 \207" [imenu-create-index-function
org-imenu-get-tree] 2]
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(electric-indent-local-mode -1))
                 #[0 "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
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local] 5]
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org-babel-show-result-all append local] 5]
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WIDTH)"]
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. "center")
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org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
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org-eww-store-link)
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:follow org-link--open-doi))
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'org-latex-format-inlinetask-default-function
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 org-latex-packages-alist '(("" "moresize" t) ("" "fancyvrb" t) (""
"inconsolata" t) ("" "tikz" t)
                            ("" "color" t) ("" "listings" t))
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                      "\\documentclass[11pt,aspectratio=169]{beamer}\n
             \\usenavigationsymbolstemplate{} % no navigation bar\n
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                      ("\\subsection{%s}" . "\\subsection*{%s}")
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("\\part{%s}" . "\\part*{%s}")
                      ("\\chapter{%s}" . "\\chapter*{%s}") ("\\section{%s}"
. "\\section*{%s}")
                      ("\\subsection{%s}" . "\\subsection*{%s}")
                      ("\\subsubsection{%s}" . "\\subsubsection*{%s}"))
                     ("book" "\\documentclass[11pt]{book}" ("\\part{%s}" .
"\\part*{%s}")
                      ("\\chapter{%s}" . "\\chapter*{%s}") ("\\section{%s}"
. "\\section*{%s}")
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                     )
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'org-html-format-headline-default-function
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"/home/jet/.config/emacs/elpa/contrib/scripts/DitaaEps.jar"
 org-confirm-babel-evaluate nil
 org-latex-listings-options '(("basicstyle" "\\footnotesize\\ttfamily")
                              ("showstringspaces" "false") ("breaklines"
"true"))
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* Re: Bug: inconsistent handling of empty duration cells in table [9.4.6 (9.4.6-12-gdcc3a8-elpa @ /home/jet/.config/emacs/elpa/org-20210816/)]
  2021-08-22 17:28 ` Bug: inconsistent handling of empty duration cells in table [9.4.6 (9.4.6-12-gdcc3a8-elpa @ /home/jet/.config/emacs/elpa/org-20210816/)] Jeff Trull
@ 2021-08-31 11:41   ` Timothy
  2024-04-12 12:10   ` Ihor Radchenko
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Timothy @ 2021-08-31 11:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jeff Trull; +Cc: emacs-orgmode


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Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the test case. I’ve been able to reproduce the behaviour, and agree
that the inconsistency is an issue. As such, I’ve marked this as a bug on
updates.orgmode.org.

All the best,
Timothy

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* Re: Bug: inconsistent handling of empty duration cells in table [9.4.6 (9.4.6-12-gdcc3a8-elpa @ /home/jet/.config/emacs/elpa/org-20210816/)]
  2021-08-22 17:28 ` Bug: inconsistent handling of empty duration cells in table [9.4.6 (9.4.6-12-gdcc3a8-elpa @ /home/jet/.config/emacs/elpa/org-20210816/)] Jeff Trull
  2021-08-31 11:41   ` Timothy
@ 2024-04-12 12:10   ` Ihor Radchenko
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2024-04-12 12:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jeff Trull; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Jeff Trull <edaskel@att.net> writes:

> When calc formulas producing empty strings are evaluated in the default
> mode, an empty cell is produced. When evaluated in duration mode (U, T,
> or t) a zero duration is produced. I feel the behavior should be
> consistent with the number formats, producing a empty value instead of a
> zero.

Fixed, on main.
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=c27412899

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>


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