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* Cannot insert footnote here
@ 2015-04-11 21:16 Thomas S. Dye
  2015-04-11 22:28 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2015-04-11 21:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Org-mode

Aloha all,

The function org-footnote--allow-reference-p seems to be restrictive.
Does it need to be so restrictive?

 1) Why not allow a footnote at the beginning of a line?
      (unless (bolp) ...

 2) Why not allow a footnote at the end of a headline?
      ((memq type org-element-all-elements) nil)

All the best,
Tom

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• * Re: Cannot insert footnote here
    2015-04-11 21:16 Cannot insert footnote here Thomas S. Dye
  @ 2015-04-11 22:28 ` Nicolas Goaziou
    2015-04-12  0:10   ` Thomas S. Dye
    2015-04-12  1:10   ` Vikas Rawal
    0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
  From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2015-04-11 22:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
    To: Thomas S. Dye; +Cc: Org-mode
  
  Hello,
  
  tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
  
  > The function org-footnote--allow-reference-p seems to be restrictive.
  > Does it need to be so restrictive?
  >
  >  1) Why not allow a footnote at the beginning of a line?
  >       (unless (bolp) ...
  
  It would be a footnote definition, not a footnote reference
  
  >  2) Why not allow a footnote at the end of a headline?
  >       ((memq type org-element-all-elements) nil)
  
  It was a bug, fixed in 7584200bb88b7995b87f065320886b0813de22dd. Thank
  you.
  
  
  Regards,
  
  -- 
  Nicolas Goaziou
  
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• • * Re: Cannot insert footnote here
      2015-04-11 22:28 ` Nicolas Goaziou
    @ 2015-04-12  0:10   ` Thomas S. Dye
      2015-04-12  1:10   ` Vikas Rawal
      1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
    From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2015-04-12  0:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: Org-mode
    
    Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:
    
    > Hello,
    >
    > tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
    >
    >> The function org-footnote--allow-reference-p seems to be restrictive.
    >> Does it need to be so restrictive?
    >>
    >>  1) Why not allow a footnote at the beginning of a line?
    >>       (unless (bolp) ...
    >
    > It would be a footnote definition, not a footnote reference
    
    OK
    
    >
    >>  2) Why not allow a footnote at the end of a headline?
    >>       ((memq type org-element-all-elements) nil)
    >
    > It was a bug, fixed in 7584200bb88b7995b87f065320886b0813de22dd. Thank
    > you.
    
    Fix confirmed.  Thanks!
    
    All the best,
    Tom
    
    -- 
    T.S. Dye & Colleagues, Archaeologists
    735 Bishop St, Suite 315, Honolulu, HI 96813
    Tel: 808-529-0866, Fax: 808-529-0884
    http://www.tsdye.com
    
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  • * Re: Cannot insert footnote here
      2015-04-11 22:28 ` Nicolas Goaziou
      2015-04-12  0:10   ` Thomas S. Dye
    @ 2015-04-12  1:10   ` Vikas Rawal
      2015-04-12  5:30     ` Thomas S. Dye
      1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
    From: Vikas Rawal @ 2015-04-12  1:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: org-mode mailing list, Thomas S. Dye
    
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    > 
    >> The function org-footnote--allow-reference-p seems to be restrictive.
    >> Does it need to be so restrictive?
    >> 
    >> 1) Why not allow a footnote at the beginning of a line?
    >>      (unless (bolp) ...
    > 
    > It would be a footnote definition, not a footnote reference
    > 
    >> 2) Why not allow a footnote at the end of a headline?
    >>      ((memq type org-element-all-elements) nil)
    > 
    > It was a bug, fixed in 7584200bb88b7995b87f065320886b0813de22dd. Thank
    > you.
    > 
    
    But a footnote at the end of a headline breaks LaTeX export. LaTeX needs an optional title as follows, to be able to include footnote in headline. 
    
    http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/47380/how-can-i-have-a-footnote-with-an-url-in-a-section-title <http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/47380/how-can-i-have-a-footnote-with-an-url-in-a-section-title>
    
    How does one get that in Org?
    
    Vikas
    
    
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  • • * Re: Cannot insert footnote here
        2015-04-12  1:10   ` Vikas Rawal
      @ 2015-04-12  5:30     ` Thomas S. Dye
        2015-04-21 13:01       ` Sebastien Vauban
        0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
      From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2015-04-12  5:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
        To: Vikas Rawal; +Cc: org-mode mailing list, Nicolas Goaziou
      
      Aloha Vikas,
      
      Vikas Rawal <vikaslists@agrarianresearch.org> writes:
      
      > But a footnote at the end of a headline breaks LaTeX export. LaTeX
      > needs an optional title as follows, to be able to include footnote in
      > headline.
      >
      > http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/47380/how-can-i-have-a-footnote-with-an-url-in-a-section-title
      > <http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/47380/how-can-i-have-a-footnote-with-an-url-in-a-section-title>
      >
      > How does one get that in Org?
      
      I don't know how to get \section[short]{long} with Org mode.
      
      However, the footnote at the end of a headline is only a problem for
      LaTeX export to LaTeX classes that use section titles in page headers or
      a table of contents.
      
      All the best,
      Tom
      
      -- 
      Thomas S. Dye
      http://www.tsdye.com
      
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    • • * Re: Cannot insert footnote here
          2015-04-12  5:30     ` Thomas S. Dye
        @ 2015-04-21 13:01       ` Sebastien Vauban
          2015-04-21 16:57         ` Thomas S. Dye
          0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
        From: Sebastien Vauban @ 2015-04-21 13:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
          To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
        
        Thomas S. Dye wrote:
        > Vikas Rawal <vikaslists-gY6uWiqvZ+vta4EC/59zMGD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org> writes:
        >
        >> But a footnote at the end of a headline breaks LaTeX export. LaTeX
        >> needs an optional title as follows, to be able to include footnote in
        >> headline.
        >>
        >> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/47380/how-can-i-have-a-footnote-with-an-url-in-a-section-title
        >> <http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/47380/how-can-i-have-a-footnote-with-an-url-in-a-section-title>
        >>
        >> How does one get that in Org?
        >
        > I don't know how to get \section[short]{long} with Org mode.
        
        There is the ALT_TITLE property, which allows to set an alternate
        (shorter, for example) title for a given headline.
        
        Best regards,
          Seb
        
        -- 
        Sebastien Vauban
        
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      • • * Re: Cannot insert footnote here
            2015-04-21 13:01       ` Sebastien Vauban
          @ 2015-04-21 16:57         ` Thomas S. Dye
            0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
          From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2015-04-21 16:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
            To: Sebastien Vauban; +Cc: public-emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
          
          
          
          Aloha Seb,
          
          Sebastien Vauban <sva-news-D0wtAvR13HarG/iDocfnWg@public.gmane.org>
          writes:
          
          > Thomas S. Dye wrote:
          >> Vikas Rawal <vikaslists-gY6uWiqvZ+vta4EC/59zMGD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org> writes:
          >>
          >>> But a footnote at the end of a headline breaks LaTeX export. LaTeX
          >>> needs an optional title as follows, to be able to include footnote in
          >>> headline.
          >>>
          >>> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/47380/how-can-i-have-a-footnote-with-an-url-in-a-section-title
          >>> <http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/47380/how-can-i-have-a-footnote-with-an-url-in-a-section-title>
          >>>
          >>> How does one get that in Org?
          >>
          >> I don't know how to get \section[short]{long} with Org mode.
          >
          > There is the ALT_TITLE property, which allows to set an alternate
          > (shorter, for example) title for a given headline.
          
          Thanks for this useful pointer.
          
          All the best,
          Tom
          
          -- 
          Thomas S. Dye
          http://www.tsdye.com
          
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