* Column View with Effort Summing in Days
@ 2017-01-12 11:50 Malcolm Matalka
2017-01-12 12:58 ` Nicolas Goaziou
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From: Malcolm Matalka @ 2017-01-12 11:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
I'm on 8.2.10 and want to upgrade to the latest version in ELPA for est+
views, but I noticed that summation with {:} in column view does not
give output in days. I've poked around the code a bit and it doesn't
seem to me like a configuration change.
Is there any way to get effort estimates printed in days (where number
of days is based on org-effort-durations?
The motivation for this is I'm planning a large project where the summed
estimates are in days and 180 hours is more difficult to grasp than 22.5
days.
Thank you,
/Malcolm
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2017-01-12 11:50 Column View with Effort Summing in Days Malcolm Matalka
@ 2017-01-12 12:58 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-01-12 13:12 ` Malcolm Matalka
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From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2017-01-12 12:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Malcolm Matalka; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hello,
Malcolm Matalka <mmatalka@gmail.com> writes:
> I'm on 8.2.10 and want to upgrade to the latest version in ELPA for est+
> views, but I noticed that summation with {:} in column view does not
> give output in days. I've poked around the code a bit and it doesn't
> seem to me like a configuration change.
>
> Is there any way to get effort estimates printed in days (where number
> of days is based on org-effort-durations?
>
> The motivation for this is I'm planning a large project where the summed
> estimates are in days and 180 hours is more difficult to grasp than 22.5
> days.
You can control the output with `org-time-clocksum-format' (which should
be named differently BTW). See also `org-time-clocksum-use-fractional'
and `org-time-clocksum-fractional-format'.
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
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2017-01-12 12:58 ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2017-01-12 13:12 ` Malcolm Matalka
2017-01-12 13:24 ` Nicolas Goaziou
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From: Malcolm Matalka @ 2017-01-12 13:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:
> Hello,
>
> Malcolm Matalka <mmatalka@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I'm on 8.2.10 and want to upgrade to the latest version in ELPA for est+
>> views, but I noticed that summation with {:} in column view does not
>> give output in days. I've poked around the code a bit and it doesn't
>> seem to me like a configuration change.
>>
>> Is there any way to get effort estimates printed in days (where number
>> of days is based on org-effort-durations?
>>
>> The motivation for this is I'm planning a large project where the summed
>> estimates are in days and 180 hours is more difficult to grasp than 22.5
>> days.
>
> You can control the output with `org-time-clocksum-format' (which should
> be named differently BTW). See also `org-time-clocksum-use-fractional'
> and `org-time-clocksum-fractional-format'.
From what I can tell, those apply to CLOCKSUM but in this case I'm using
{:} for effort. Do they still apply there? I can see that CLOCKSUM
already uses days in the format but I'm not seeing it on the output for
Effort sums. Am I misunderstanding your response?
>
> Regards,
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2017-01-12 13:12 ` Malcolm Matalka
@ 2017-01-12 13:24 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-01-12 13:46 ` Malcolm Matalka
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From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2017-01-12 13:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Malcolm Matalka; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hello,
Malcolm Matalka <mmatalka@gmail.com> writes:
> From what I can tell, those apply to CLOCKSUM but in this case I'm using
> {:} for effort. Do they still apply there?
They should, IIRC, as long as at least one duration is expressed using
`org-effort-durations' units.
> I can see that CLOCKSUM already uses days in the format but I'm not
> seeing it on the output for Effort sums.
Could you show an ECM if you think it doesn't work as expected?
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou 0x80A93738
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2017-01-12 13:24 ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2017-01-12 13:46 ` Malcolm Matalka
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From: Malcolm Matalka @ 2017-01-12 13:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:
> Hello,
>
> Malcolm Matalka <mmatalka@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> From what I can tell, those apply to CLOCKSUM but in this case I'm using
>> {:} for effort. Do they still apply there?
>
> They should, IIRC, as long as at least one duration is expressed using
> `org-effort-durations' units.
>
>> I can see that CLOCKSUM already uses days in the format but I'm not
>> seeing it on the output for Effort sums.
>
> Could you show an ECM if you think it doesn't work as expected?
Ohhhhhhhhhkay, now I get what's going on. It works if I have at least 1
effort estimate in days. What does not work is if the sum of effort
estimates sums up to over a day, it stays as hours. I don't know if
this behaviour is better or worse than my expected behaviour. For my
usecase I do have some estimates that are over a day but the legacy
behaviour would automatically convert.
Here is an example:
* Test1
:PROPERTIES:
:COLUMNS: %50ITEM(Task) %10Effort(Effort){:}
:END:
** Foo
:PROPERTIES:
:Effort: 8:00
:END:
** Bar
:PROPERTIES:
:Effort: 8:00
:END:
** Baz
:PROPERTIES:
:Effort: 8:00
:END:
This sums to 24:00, if I change 1 of these to 1d I get 3d (which is what
I want).
Thank you!
>
> Regards,
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