* [odt] User-visible improvements
@ 2011-08-04 21:05 Jambunathan K
2011-08-06 7:48 ` Help confirming odt->doc bug (Was Re: [odt] User-visible improvements) Jambunathan K
2011-08-18 7:31 ` [odt] User-visible improvements Bastien
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jambunathan K @ 2011-08-04 21:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
I pushed few user-visible improvements to org-lparse/org-odt a few
minutes ago. With these changes an exported document could be
post-processed to another format (using an external converter) with just
a single command (i.e., you no longer have to launch OpenOffice and do
"Save As" etc)
(For the impatient: Start with item 3!)
1. A choice of command-line converters for org-lparse dependent backends
like org-odt and org-xhtml.
M-x customize-variable RET org-lparse-convert-processes RET
- Currently two converters are supported.
1. BasicODConverter - Home-brewed converter. This is available as
an OpenOffice extension in contrib/odt/BasicODConverter dir of
org git repo.
2. unoconv - Unable to install this locally on my machine. So use
of this as a converter is largely untested. But should work
without any glitches.
3. If there are other popular converters that are in use, I would
like to add them to this list.
2. M-x customize-variable RET org-lparse-convert-process RET
- Choose one of the based on your preferences and availability
3. Make C-c C-e O export directly to your preferred output format
(doc?). Use
M-x customize-variable RET org-export-odt-preferred-output-format RET
(But review items 1 and 2 before doing this)
Side-note: You can use M-x org-lparse-convert to convert an odt file to
say pdf or even docbook or a csv file to xls or a odp file to ppt. This
will depend on your converter capabilities. So checkout
M-x customize-variable RET org-lparse-convert-capabilities RET
You can use org-lparse to export to xhtml and post-process it to odt etc
etc without leaving the comforts of your Emacs session (Remember the
pre-odt days?)
Jambunathan K.
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread* Help confirming odt->doc bug (Was Re: [odt] User-visible improvements) 2011-08-04 21:05 [odt] User-visible improvements Jambunathan K @ 2011-08-06 7:48 ` Jambunathan K 2011-08-06 9:50 ` Achim Gratz ` (2 more replies) 2011-08-18 7:31 ` [odt] User-visible improvements Bastien 1 sibling, 3 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Jambunathan K @ 2011-08-06 7:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode > I pushed few user-visible improvements to org-lparse/org-odt a few > minutes ago. With these changes an exported document could be > post-processed to another format (using an external converter) with just > a single command (i.e., you no longer have to launch OpenOffice and do > "Save As" etc) This addition seems to be bearing fruit immediately. I just reported a problematic behaviour with org->odt->doc conversion in LibreOffice mailing list. See http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.devel/14739 I am using OpenOffice.org-3.2.1 (OOO20m18/Build:9502). Does anyone else see the reported behaviour with recent LibreOffice builds? I am surprised that no one has complained about this problematic behaviour yet. Is it that people in this list (and their friends) have actually shifted to OpenDocument formats and don't rely on Word anymore. Or Is it that users simply "hand fix" the generated document. Jambunathan K. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Help confirming odt->doc bug (Was Re: [odt] User-visible improvements) 2011-08-06 7:48 ` Help confirming odt->doc bug (Was Re: [odt] User-visible improvements) Jambunathan K @ 2011-08-06 9:50 ` Achim Gratz 2011-08-08 6:10 ` Jambunathan K 2011-08-08 6:12 ` Jambunathan K 2011-08-21 18:38 ` Jambunathan K 2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Achim Gratz @ 2011-08-06 9:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes: > Does anyone else see the reported behaviour with recent LibreOffice > builds? The behaviour seems to be the same in LibreOffice3.3.3. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptations for Waldorf Q V3.00R3 and Q+ V3.54R2: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Help confirming odt->doc bug (Was Re: [odt] User-visible improvements) 2011-08-06 9:50 ` Achim Gratz @ 2011-08-08 6:10 ` Jambunathan K 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Jambunathan K @ 2011-08-08 6:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> writes: > Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes: >> Does anyone else see the reported behaviour with recent LibreOffice >> builds? > > The behaviour seems to be the same in LibreOffice3.3.3. Thanks for confirming this. > Regards, > Achim. -- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Help confirming odt->doc bug (Was Re: [odt] User-visible improvements) 2011-08-06 7:48 ` Help confirming odt->doc bug (Was Re: [odt] User-visible improvements) Jambunathan K 2011-08-06 9:50 ` Achim Gratz @ 2011-08-08 6:12 ` Jambunathan K 2011-08-21 18:38 ` Jambunathan K 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Jambunathan K @ 2011-08-08 6:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes: >> I pushed few user-visible improvements to org-lparse/org-odt a few >> minutes ago. With these changes an exported document could be >> post-processed to another format (using an external converter) with just >> a single command (i.e., you no longer have to launch OpenOffice and do >> "Save As" etc) > > This addition seems to be bearing fruit immediately. I just reported a > problematic behaviour with org->odt->doc conversion in LibreOffice > mailing list. See > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.devel/14739 > > I am using OpenOffice.org-3.2.1 (OOO20m18/Build:9502). I have pushed an alternative implementation + workaround that doesn't trigger this bug. Please update your local copies. > Does anyone else see the reported behaviour with recent LibreOffice > builds? I am surprised that no one has complained about this problematic > behaviour yet. Is it that people in this list (and their friends) have > actually shifted to OpenDocument formats and don't rely on Word > anymore. Or Is it that users simply "hand fix" the generated document. > > Jambunathan K. > > -- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Help confirming odt->doc bug (Was Re: [odt] User-visible improvements) 2011-08-06 7:48 ` Help confirming odt->doc bug (Was Re: [odt] User-visible improvements) Jambunathan K 2011-08-06 9:50 ` Achim Gratz 2011-08-08 6:12 ` Jambunathan K @ 2011-08-21 18:38 ` Jambunathan K 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Jambunathan K @ 2011-08-21 18:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode > This addition seems to be bearing fruit immediately. I just reported a > problematic behaviour with org->odt->doc conversion in LibreOffice > mailing list. See > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.devel/14739 > > I am using OpenOffice.org-3.2.1 (OOO20m18/Build:9502). > Filed as https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40272 (CCing the list mostly for my own later reference) -- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [odt] User-visible improvements 2011-08-04 21:05 [odt] User-visible improvements Jambunathan K 2011-08-06 7:48 ` Help confirming odt->doc bug (Was Re: [odt] User-visible improvements) Jambunathan K @ 2011-08-18 7:31 ` Bastien 2011-08-18 12:31 ` suvayu ali 2011-08-19 7:35 ` Jambunathan K 1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2011-08-18 7:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jambunathan K; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi Jambunathan, these are great improvements -- I'm surprised people didn't thank you more for this! So, thanks. Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes: > 1. A choice of command-line converters for org-lparse dependent backends > like org-odt and org-xhtml. > > M-x customize-variable RET org-lparse-convert-processes RET > > - Currently two converters are supported. > 1. BasicODConverter - Home-brewed converter. This is available as > an OpenOffice extension in contrib/odt/BasicODConverter dir of > org git repo. > > 2. unoconv - Unable to install this locally on my machine. So use > of this as a converter is largely untested. But should work > without any glitches. > > 3. If there are other popular converters that are in use, I would > like to add them to this list. > > 2. M-x customize-variable RET org-lparse-convert-process RET > - Choose one of the based on your preferences and availability I am not sure I understand why we need `org-lparse-convert-process' and `org-lparse-convert-processes' -- isn't it possible to just have the first one, while listing the choices within this option? > 3. Make C-c C-e O export directly to your preferred output format > (doc?). Use > > M-x customize-variable RET org-export-odt-preferred-output-format RET > > (But review items 1 and 2 before doing this) I use unoconv. Can you give me an example configuration if I want C-c C-e O to output files directly in, say, .doc (MS Word) format? Thanks again, looking forward to test this more heavily! -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [odt] User-visible improvements 2011-08-18 7:31 ` [odt] User-visible improvements Bastien @ 2011-08-18 12:31 ` suvayu ali 2011-08-19 8:44 ` Jambunathan K 2011-08-19 7:35 ` Jambunathan K 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: suvayu ali @ 2011-08-18 12:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Jambunathan K Hi Jambu and Bastien, On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote: > Hi Jambunathan, > > these are great improvements -- I'm surprised people didn't thank > you more for this! So, thanks. > Does this feature mean we can export to other common word processor formats like .doc using the odt exporter and command line utilities for the final conversion? Although this is not of direct interest to me (I stay away from anything not Linux :-p), it might be interesting to my Mac/Windows friends. :) I also see Jambu mentions odp to pdf. I wasn't aware the odt exporter could export to odp. This would be something I would love to test more. Is there any special configuration I need to do? I tried looking for variables, but nothing jumped out as an obvious customisation in a cursory glance. And of course a huge thanks to Jambu. :) -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [odt] User-visible improvements 2011-08-18 12:31 ` suvayu ali @ 2011-08-19 8:44 ` Jambunathan K 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Jambunathan K @ 2011-08-19 8:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: suvayu ali; +Cc: Bastien, emacs-orgmode suvayu ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> writes: > Hi Jambu and Bastien, > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote: >> Hi Jambunathan, >> >> these are great improvements -- I'm surprised people didn't thank >> you more for this! So, thanks. >> > > Does this feature mean we can export to other common word processor > formats like .doc using the odt exporter and command line utilities > for the final conversion? Although this is not of direct interest to > me (I stay away from anything not Linux :-p), it might be interesting > to my Mac/Windows friends. :) Yes. org->odt-><whatever including doc and pdf> First link in the chain is through an org backend and the second link in the chain is through a converter. (Think of exporting to latex natively and then using pdflated to generate pdf. The principle is just the same) > I also see Jambu mentions odp to pdf. Yes you can convert to already-existing_odp->pdf. More specifically you can do all conversions that you typically do with "Save As" and "Export to" options while working on Writer/Presentation/Spreadsheet/Web/Drawing documents. More specifically if you have latex, docbook or mediawiki extensions installed you can export do a html->latex, odt->docbook, rtf->mediawiki throught the converter. The command to use is M-x org-lparse-convert RET <give the document> RET <choose the final format> RET and the external converter will do the job for you. > I wasn't aware the odt exporter could export to odp. You do a org->odt->odp. This is an easter egg in BasicODConverter (and this feature is not available in unoconv). You can add a odp entry in org-lparse-convert-capabilities as below ,---- | (("Text" <---- Under Text category | ("odt" "ott" "doc" "rtf") | (("pdf" "pdf") | ("odt" "odt") | ("xhtml" "html") | ("rtf" "rtf") | ("ott" "ott") | ("doc" "doc") | ("ooxml" "xml") | ("html" "html") | ("odp" "odp"))) <---- Add this entry | [snip]) `---- odt->odp currently uses File->Send->Outline To Presentation (BasicODConverter is authored by me. So without much of haggling :-) I can have it do File->Send->Autoabstract to Presentation) This is an asynchronous call and it is NOT headless. So basically the LibreOffice window will pop-up and wait for few second before declaring that conversion is done. If there is enough interest in this direction I would file a feature request against LibreOffice to provide a synchronous API for outline to presentation conversion. (From the OpenOffice mailing list I understand that odt->html conversion was asynchronous but was later converter to synchronous mechanism based on a bug report filed by the JODConverter) ,---- from Main.Bas in BasicODConverter dir | ' Export Outline to Presentation | dispatcher = createUnoService("com.sun.star.frame.DispatchHelper") | dispatcher.executeDispatch(inDoc.CurrentController.Frame, ".uno:SendOutlineToStarImpress", "", 0, Array()) | | ' Dispatch event above is aynchronous. Wait for a few seconds for the above event to finish | Wait(WaitFor * 1000) `---- > This would be something I would love to test more. Is there any > special configuration I need to do? I tried looking for variables, but > nothing jumped out as an obvious customisation in a cursory glance. > And of course a huge thanks to Jambu. :) -- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [odt] User-visible improvements 2011-08-18 7:31 ` [odt] User-visible improvements Bastien 2011-08-18 12:31 ` suvayu ali @ 2011-08-19 7:35 ` Jambunathan K 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Jambunathan K @ 2011-08-19 7:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode > I am not sure I understand why we need `org-lparse-convert-process' > and `org-lparse-convert-processes' -- isn't it possible to just have > the first one, while listing the choices within this option? I need a radio-table of an (a)list with a simultaneous ability to modify radio-table entries. Do you know how to accomplish that with defcustom? >> 3. Make C-c C-e O export directly to your preferred output format >> (doc?). Use >> >> M-x customize-variable RET org-export-odt-preferred-output-format RET >> >> (But review items 1 and 2 before doing this) > > I use unoconv. > > Can you give me an example configuration if I want C-c C-e O to output > files directly in, say, .doc (MS Word) format? Set org-lparse-convert-process to unoconv (through the custom interface). Set org-export-odt-preferred-output-format to doc. If I have got the commandline for unoconv wrong then you need to edit it's entry in org-lparse-convert-processes. I think unoconv requires that you start a converter process and have the converter client connect to it. Please make sure that the conversion happens just fine on the command line before using the org-lparse(-convert)? commands. BasicODConverter doesn't rely on a server process so it's plug and play. -- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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