* [Babel] Difficult to follow code execution in HTML exported file
@ 2010-11-26 10:59 Sébastien Vauban
2010-11-26 20:33 ` Eric Schulte
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Sébastien Vauban @ 2010-11-26 10:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
#+TITLE: Tables don't have their name exported
#+DATE: 2010-11-26
#+LANGUAGE: en_US
* Abstract
Chunks of code are exported to HTML with their parameters, such as table
names. But *tables aren't exported with their name*.
* Playing with data and code
Here is one table:
#+tblname: numbers-1
| 1 |
| 2 |
| 45 |
| test |
| 3.141592 |
Another one is here:
#+tblname: numbers-2
| 21 |
| 22 |
| 245 |
| test2 |
| 23.14159 |
When applying the following chunk of code to some data (find who is
=numbers-1=!):
#+srcname: add-type
#+begin_src emacs-lisp :var data=numbers-1 :exports both
(mapcar
(lambda (line)
(let ((number (car line)))
(list number (type-of number))))
data)
#+end_src
I get the following results:
#+results: add-type
#+BEGIN_RESULT
| 1 | integer |
| 2 | integer |
| 45 | integer |
| test | string |
| 3.141592 | float |
#+END_RESULT
* Explanation
In HTML, I can't entirely follow the explanation, as the code's parameter
(here: =numbers-1=) is not visible anywhere: *tables don't have their name
exported*...
I well see that the chunk of code is called on table =numbers-1=, but I don't
which one of the two tables it is.
Best regards,
Seb
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread* Re: [Babel] Difficult to follow code execution in HTML exported file 2010-11-26 10:59 [Babel] Difficult to follow code execution in HTML exported file Sébastien Vauban @ 2010-11-26 20:33 ` Eric Schulte 2010-11-26 23:04 ` Sébastien Vauban 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Eric Schulte @ 2010-11-26 20:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sébastien Vauban; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi Seb, The title of your email mentions code execution, but the body seems to focus on export of table names. I'll reply to the latter and my apologies if I've missed something related to the former. Table names have existed in Org-mode since before the existence of active code blocks, and I don't think they have ever been exported, so the export of table names would be a Org-mode wide feature request. I imagine that such a change would meet with some resistance, at least I know I would not want all of my table names exported by default. Is there a reason you don't just add the table name manually? e.g. Numbers-1 #+tblname: numbers-1 | 1 | | 2 | | 45 | | test | | 3.141592 | Hope this helps -- Eric Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes: > #+TITLE: Tables don't have their name exported > #+DATE: 2010-11-26 > #+LANGUAGE: en_US > > * Abstract > > Chunks of code are exported to HTML with their parameters, such as table > names. But *tables aren't exported with their name*. > > * Playing with data and code > > Here is one table: > > #+tblname: numbers-1 > | 1 | > | 2 | > | 45 | > | test | > | 3.141592 | > > Another one is here: > > #+tblname: numbers-2 > | 21 | > | 22 | > | 245 | > | test2 | > | 23.14159 | > > When applying the following chunk of code to some data (find who is > =numbers-1=!): > > #+srcname: add-type > #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var data=numbers-1 :exports both > (mapcar > (lambda (line) > (let ((number (car line))) > (list number (type-of number)))) > data) > #+end_src > > I get the following results: > > #+results: add-type > #+BEGIN_RESULT > | 1 | integer | > | 2 | integer | > | 45 | integer | > | test | string | > | 3.141592 | float | > #+END_RESULT > > > * Explanation > > In HTML, I can't entirely follow the explanation, as the code's parameter > (here: =numbers-1=) is not visible anywhere: *tables don't have their name > exported*... > > I well see that the chunk of code is called on table =numbers-1=, but I don't > which one of the two tables it is. > > Best regards, > Seb ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: [Babel] Difficult to follow code execution in HTML exported file 2010-11-26 20:33 ` Eric Schulte @ 2010-11-26 23:04 ` Sébastien Vauban 2010-11-26 23:23 ` Eric Schulte 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Sébastien Vauban @ 2010-11-26 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ Hi Eric, "Eric Schulte" wrote: > Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf-geNee64TY+gS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org> writes: >> #+TITLE: Tables don't have their name exported >> >> Chunks of code are exported to HTML with their parameters, such as table >> names. But *tables aren't exported with their name*. >> >> * Playing with data and code >> >> Here is one table: >> >> #+tblname: numbers-1 >> | 1 | >> | 2 | >> | 45 | >> | test | >> | 3.141592 | >> >> Another one is here: >> >> #+tblname: numbers-2 >> | 21 | >> | 22 | >> | 245 | >> | test2 | >> | 23.14159 | >> >> When applying the following chunk of code to some data (find who is >> =numbers-1=!): >> >> #+srcname: add-type >> #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var data=numbers-1 :exports both >> (mapcar >> (lambda (line) >> (let ((number (car line))) >> (list number (type-of number)))) >> data) >> #+end_src >> >> I get the following results: >> >> #+results: add-type >> #+BEGIN_RESULT >> | 1 | integer | >> | 2 | integer | >> | 45 | integer | >> | test | string | >> | 3.141592 | float | >> #+END_RESULT > > The title of your email mentions code execution, but the body seems to > focus on export of table names. I'll reply to the latter and my > apologies if I've missed something related to the former. You're right that there is *not necessarily* execution per se, though the function is well *executed* and outputs results in the example I gave. And, imagine you read that page on Worg, you can't completely follow the execution chain: the code refers to some data that is invisible in HTML. You currently can't output that information... My titles aren't orthogonal: if I'm clear, it's because table names are not exported that it's difficult to understand how documented code has produced the displayed results. If not yet done, put your mind in "literate programming" documentation style, and "reproducible research". It really is about exporting both data, code and results... > Table names have existed in Org-mode since before the existence of > active code blocks, and I don't think they have ever been exported, so > the export of table names would be a Org-mode wide feature request. OK. > I imagine that such a change would meet with some resistance, at least I > know I would not want all of my table names exported by default. You name it... "by default", meaning such a behavior should be "switchable": on or off. > Is there a reason you don't just add the table name manually? e.g. > > Numbers-1 > #+tblname: numbers-1 > | 1 | > | 2 | > | 45 | > | test | > | 3.141592 | I'm not really enthousiast about solutions that would be manual. On the contrary, even if table names were always exported, the name can easily disappear from your documents with just a (very) little bit of CSS or LaTeX code. In CSS, just apply "display: none" on the DIV, and you're done. I don't really understand the resistance you're talking about, then. To sum up, if the info is there, it's really easy to remove it (even automatically!). If it's not there, it's quite a tedious task to add it (manually)... Do you understand the need I'm trying to express? Best regards, Seb -- Sébastien Vauban _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [Babel] Difficult to follow code execution in HTML exported file 2010-11-26 23:04 ` Sébastien Vauban @ 2010-11-26 23:23 ` Eric Schulte 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Eric Schulte @ 2010-11-26 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sébastien Vauban; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes: >> I imagine that such a change would meet with some resistance, at least I >> know I would not want all of my table names exported by default. > > You name it... "by default", meaning such a behavior should be "switchable": > on or off. > > >> Is there a reason you don't just add the table name manually? e.g. >> >> Numbers-1 >> #+tblname: numbers-1 >> | 1 | >> | 2 | >> | 45 | >> | test | >> | 3.141592 | > > I'm not really enthousiast about solutions that would be manual. > > On the contrary, even if table names were always exported, the name can easily > disappear from your documents with just a (very) little bit of CSS or LaTeX > code. In CSS, just apply "display: none" on the DIV, and you're done. I don't > really understand the resistance you're talking about, then. > > To sum up, if the info is there, it's really easy to remove it (even > automatically!). If it's not there, it's quite a tedious task to add it > (manually)... > > Do you understand the need I'm trying to express? > Yes, I understand the need you express and I agree that this would be a useful addition to the export engine. I'm not sure how the export or table names (and probably other types of names including results and maybe other Org-mode comments) would be toggled on and off however, but perhaps someone better acquainted with the export engine than myself would know. Best -- Eric > > Best regards, > Seb ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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