* [bug?] Computations on efforts expressed in days
@ 2012-04-17 14:36 Sebastien Vauban
2012-05-01 16:02 ` Bastien
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Sebastien Vauban @ 2012-04-17 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
Hello,
I want to compute efforts given in days. As explained by the doc of
`org-effort-durations', we must add a =d= modifier to tell Org that given numbers
must be multiplied by 480 (in the case of hours) to get the correct number of
corresponding minutes.
I did that, but (as shown in the following inlined ECM):
- the computed total for task A is interpreted as hours (4.5 days becomes
4 hours 30 minutes).
- the grand computed total for all tasks becomes completely wrong (4:38
instead of 4.5 + 0.125 = 4.625 days).
Am I doing something wrong, or forgetting something?
Best regards,
Seb
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
#+COLUMNS: %66ITEM(Task) %6Effort(Estim.){:}
#+TITLE: ECM Proposal
#+AUTHOR: Seb Vauban
* Tasks
:PROPERTIES:
:ID: 75dd37bf-a15a-4910-89f8-25d481f3e523
:END:
** TODO A
*** TODO A1
:PROPERTIES:
:Effort: 1.5d
:END:
Time required: 1.5 days.
*** TODO A2
:PROPERTIES:
:Effort: 3d
:END:
Time required: 3 days.
** TODO B
:PROPERTIES:
:Effort: 0.125d
:END:
Time: around 1 hour.
* Budget estimate
We have estimated the budget as follows:
#+tblname: dblock-tasks
#+BEGIN: columnview :hlines 1 :id "75dd37bf-a15a-4910-89f8-25d481f3e523" :maxlevel 3
| Task | Estim. |
|-------------+--------|
| * Tasks | 4:38 |
| ** TODO A | 4:30 |
| *** TODO A1 | 1.5d |
| *** TODO A2 | 3d |
| ** TODO B | 0.125d |
#+END:
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
--
Sebastien Vauban
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* Re: [bug?] Computations on efforts expressed in days
2012-04-17 14:36 [bug?] Computations on efforts expressed in days Sebastien Vauban
@ 2012-05-01 16:02 ` Bastien
2012-05-02 12:50 ` Sebastien Vauban
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-05-01 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastien Vauban; +Cc: public-emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
"Sebastien Vauban"
<wxhgmqzgwmuf-geNee64TY+gS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org> writes:
> I want to compute efforts given in days. As explained by the doc of
> `org-effort-durations', we must add a =d= modifier to tell Org that given numbers
> must be multiplied by 480 (in the case of hours) to get the correct number of
> corresponding minutes.
>
> I did that, but (as shown in the following inlined ECM):
>
> - the computed total for task A is interpreted as hours (4.5 days becomes
> 4 hours 30 minutes).
>
> - the grand computed total for all tasks becomes completely wrong (4:38
> instead of 4.5 + 0.125 = 4.625 days).
>
> Am I doing something wrong, or forgetting something?
This should be fixed now.
Thanks,
--
Bastien
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* Re: [bug?] Computations on efforts expressed in days
2012-05-01 16:02 ` Bastien
@ 2012-05-02 12:50 ` Sebastien Vauban
2012-05-02 14:32 ` Sebastien Vauban
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Sebastien Vauban @ 2012-05-02 12:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
Hi Bastien,
Bastien wrote:
> Sebastien Vauban writes:
>
>> I want to compute efforts given in days. As explained by the doc of
>> `org-effort-durations', we must add a =d= modifier to tell Org that given
>> numbers must be multiplied by 480 (in the case of hours) to get the correct
>> number of corresponding minutes.
>>
>> I did that, but (as shown in the following inlined ECM):
>>
>> - the computed total for task A is interpreted as hours (4.5 days becomes 4
>> hours 30 minutes).
>>
>> - the grand computed total for all tasks becomes completely wrong (4:38
>> instead of 4.5 + 0.125 = 4.625 days).
>>
>> Am I doing something wrong, or forgetting something?
>
> This should be fixed now.
With your patch, the dynamic bloc now becomes:
#+BEGIN: columnview :hlines 1 :id "75dd37bf-a15a-4910-89f8-25d481f3e523" :maxlevel 3
| Task | Estim. |
|-------------+--------|
| * Tasks | 37:00 |
| ** TODO A | 36:00 |
| *** TODO A1 | 1.5d |
| *** TODO A2 | 3d |
| ** TODO B | 0.125d |
#+END:
All the computations are right now -- thanks a lot.
However, the table is difficult to read, mixing hours and days (in this case).
Shouldn't we be able to give a parameter to the columnview to say in which
format we expect the times, and then get *all* values converted to either
hours or days (still, in this case)?
If that existed, should it be done for Effort only, or extrapolated to all (?)
properties?
Best regards,
Seb
--
Sebastien Vauban
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* Re: [bug?] Computations on efforts expressed in days
2012-05-02 12:50 ` Sebastien Vauban
@ 2012-05-02 14:32 ` Sebastien Vauban
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Sebastien Vauban @ 2012-05-02 14:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
Hi Bastien,
"Sebastien Vauban" wrote:
> Bastien wrote:
>> Sebastien Vauban writes:
>>
>>> I want to compute efforts given in days. As explained by the doc of
>>> `org-effort-durations', we must add a =d= modifier to tell Org that given
>>> numbers must be multiplied by 480 (in the case of hours) to get the
>>> correct number of corresponding minutes.
>>>
>>> I did that, but (as shown in the following inlined ECM):
>>>
>>> - the computed total for task A is interpreted as hours (4.5 days becomes
>>> 4 hours 30 minutes).
>>>
>>> - the grand computed total for all tasks becomes completely wrong (4:38
>>> instead of 4.5 + 0.125 = 4.625 days).
>>>
>>> Am I doing something wrong, or forgetting something?
>>
>> This should be fixed now.
>
> With your patch, the dynamic bloc now becomes:
>
> #+BEGIN: columnview :hlines 1 :id "75dd37bf-a15a-4910-89f8-25d481f3e523" :maxlevel 3
> | Task | Estim. |
> |-------------+--------|
> | * Tasks | 37:00 |
> | ** TODO A | 36:00 |
> | *** TODO A1 | 1.5d |
> | *** TODO A2 | 3d |
> | ** TODO B | 0.125d |
> #+END:
>
> All the computations are right now -- thanks a lot.
The above computations are right, as said, but looking further, I see another
problem:
- while totals are correctly taking care of the effort in "days",
- subcomponents are not: tasks A1 and A2 here below: respectively 1 and 3
seconds, instead of 1.5 and 3 days...
#+BEGIN: columnview :hlines 1 :id "75dd37bf-a15a-4910-89f8-25d481f3e523" :maxlevel 3
| Task | Estim. | |
|-------------+--------+----------|
| * Tasks | 37:00 | 37:00:00 |
| ** TODO A | 36:00 | 36:00:00 |
| *** TODO A1 | 1.5d | 00:00:01 |
| *** TODO A2 | 3d | 00:00:03 |
| ** TODO B | 0.125d | 00:00:00 |
#+TBLFM: $3=$2;T
#+END:
> However, the table is difficult to read, mixing hours and days (in this
> case). Shouldn't we be able to give a parameter to the columnview to say in
> which format we expect the times, and then get *all* values converted to
> either hours or days (still, in this case)?
This becomes even more stringent if you plan to make a "CLOCKED vs Estimated"
report where figures of one column are in hours and figures of the other are
in mixed units (days or hours).
Best regards,
Seb
--
Sebastien Vauban
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