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From: Guillaume MULLER <guillaume.muller@emse.fr>
To: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Bug in org-insert-link?
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2023 16:24:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <700f19ff-aea4-4d63-8354-89e0fa57a27f@emse.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58073f8e-a7bc-49e4-aa59-7123dcff4cb3@emse.fr>


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Hi,

Sorry for coming back that late on this problem. The problem came back again today: Links get inserted into random places again.

I think I have (the beginning of) an idea where problem lies.

Context:
- I'm using (Doom)Emacs in emacs-client mode, and I'm putting my computer only on sleep at night, so Emacs (daemon) often runs for weeks
- I regularly do some updates/upgrades: `sh> doom upgrade` or `sh> doom sync -u` (from shell, outside DoomEmacs)
   - Sometimes it works, so I just continue using Emacs
   - But sometimes doing the updates/upgrades while DoomEmacs is running make it go berserk
   - In such cases, I start by running `M-x doom/reload` (from inside Emacs), and if org buffers are going berserk too, I also run `M-x org-reload`
   - If it still does not work (most of the time), I `pkill emacs` and start Emacs again from scratch

The last time the link insertion issue appeared, I had called `M-x org-reload` after a `M-x doom/reload` after a `sh> doom upgrade`.

Restarting Emacs solved it.

I tried calling `M-x org-reload` and inserting some link on the fresh new Emacs process, and it seems to work.

So the problem apparently comes when calling `M-x org-reload` (from inside Emacs) after calling `sh> doom upgrade` (from outside Emacs). (NOTE: I haven't been able to try if the problem appears when calling `M-x doom/upgrade` (from inside Emacs) yet, as my Emacs is the freshest possible for now).

My conclusion is that "the bug" probably comes from the fact that the "org-mode" being reloaded is a fresher version than the "org-mode" that was loaded when Emacs-client was started, several weeks ago.

Not sure if this issue should be pursued or if my franken-usage of Emacs is to be blamed :)

Cheers

On 10/9/23 16:40, Guillaume MULLER wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for the answer... I'll have a look at your links.
> 
> However, since I wrote the email, I've seen the behavior occur without changing (at least voluntarily) the cursor position in the Org buffer...
> 
> On 10/5/23 12:18, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
>> Guillaume MULLER <guillaume.muller@emse.fr> writes:
>>
>>> ...
>>> - Switch back to (Doom)Emacs ("window"/desktop)
>>> - Click inside the Emacs "window" to give it focus
>>> [Here is the problem: sometimes I forgot that I already started the org-insert-link]
>>> - Call org-insert-link
>>> - Paste the URL
>>> - Validate the link creation
>>>
>>> Then the link is inserted where I clicked last (to give focus to the Emacs "window").
>>
>> By default, Emacs moves point to where you click. You can do the same
>> thing if you deliberately C-x o from the minibuffer. See 9.3 Editing in
>> the Minibuffer section of Emacs manual.
>> I see nothing wrong on the Org side.
>>
>>> Of course, the problem lies in my mistake of calling twice the org-insert-link method, but the behavior is very strange, and it took me some time to identify why my links were inserted at random places in my text.
>>>
>>> However, wouldn't it be possible to prevent it from the beginning by forbidding me to call org-insert-link twice, i.e. making it a singleton/atomic function (I don't see a UseCase where this could be useful to be able to call it inside itself, but maybe I'm wrong)?
>>
>> Check out 22.1 Mouse Commands for Editing section of Emacs manual.
>> `x-mouse-click-focus-ignore-position' might be something you want to
>> customize.
>>
> 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-04 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-27 15:29 Bug in org-insert-link? Guillaume MULLER
2023-10-05 10:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-09 14:40   ` Guillaume MULLER
2023-10-10 11:25     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-10 11:33       ` Guillaume MULLER
2023-10-10 11:38         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-04 15:24     ` Guillaume MULLER [this message]
2023-12-04 16:13       ` Guillaume MULLER
2023-12-05 12:29         ` Ihor Radchenko

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