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From: tumashu <tumashu@163.com>
To: aditya siram <aditya.siram@gmail.com>
Cc: Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>,
	cpchan@bell.net, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org,
	Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: GNU Hyperbole 6.0.1 for Emacs 24.4 - 25 is released
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 09:01:31 +0800 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5cc06278.1130.1563952033b.Coremail.tumashu@163.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJrReyjK72CDZbSX3VbA6XJP0wKNeR7bfnYGSrCM4=Gs4AXPMQ@mail.gmail.com>

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great comment

在 2016-07-30 00:25:12,"aditya siram" <aditya.siram@gmail.com> 写道:

I never used Hyperbole back in the day so this is all fresh for me. I am also an avid org-mode user. The following feedback is based on about 48 hours of usage.


Hyperbole is a suite of tools. One of them is an outliner that overlaps quite a bit with org-mode. It has some interesting features like being able to link individual paragraphs as opposed to just headings/sub-headings but in most cases org-mode is further along.

But there are other tools in Hyperbole that might interest you including Acme-like string execution. For example if you do M-RET on the word README it automatically jumps to README without having to go through the rigamarole or creating a link in org-mode.


One of the nicest things about Hyperbole is that it's available everywhere. Org-mode is a mode and its features are only available in *.org files. For instance if you dropped into `eshell` or `ansi-term` and did `ls`, you can move point to any of the directory's contents, do M-RET (or Shift-Button2) and jump to that file. And that's just one example. Note that this means that all Hyperbole functionality is available in *.org files as well. To me, except for the Hyperbole outliner, that makes complementary not conflicting. It's Hyperbole *and* org-mode, not Hyperbole vs. org-mode.



Additionally, off the bat, I found it very well documented and for me that's a proxy for the quality of a package and the maintainer, Robert Weiner is quite responsive and really seems to want Hyperbole to take off. There's plenty more functionality that I haven't uncovered yet but due to ease of installation and quality of documentation digging into it is actually fun; much more discoverable than org-mode which has become this giant bag of random directives.


Hyperbole, even though it is old, feels like it is in its second infancy meaning it is open to change based on community feedback. As a practical note, once you install it doing C-h h d d will fire up a nice Demo which I is think is more fun than watching a screencast.


-deech




On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com> wrote:

Actually it will be even more awesome if you can record a short video/GIF screencast demonstrating what hyperbole does compared to org mode. Or in general how you would use hyperbole.


Thanks.


On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:52 AM Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net> wrote:

Charles Philip Chan <cpchan@bell.net> writes:

> Wow, blast from the past. I remember using older versions of Hyperbole
> fondly and still miss it. Thank you for updating it. I look forward to
> using it. :-)

Charles, could you explain a little bit how it compares to Org?  I read
the thread on /r/emacs and looked at the wiki, but I'm still not sure
how it compares to or complements Org.



--


Kaushal Modi



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Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-27 16:43 ANNOUNCE: GNU Hyperbole 6.0.1 for Emacs 24.4 - 25 is released Robert Weiner
2016-07-28 17:16 ` Charles Philip Chan
2016-07-29 15:36   ` Adam Porter
2016-07-29 15:54     ` Kaushal Modi
2016-07-29 16:25       ` aditya siram
2016-07-30  1:01         ` tumashu [this message]
2016-07-30  2:59           ` Kaushal Modi
2016-07-30 18:04       ` Robert Love
2016-07-29 17:27   ` Peter Davis
2016-07-29 19:12     ` Nick Dokos

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