* Making TAB a touch more magical
@ 2009-10-17 0:59 John Wiegley
2009-10-17 6:55 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-02 13:18 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: John Wiegley @ 2009-10-17 0:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Org-mode Mode
In most "power" outliners on the Mac, pressing TAB indents the outline
level of the current item. This lets you add subnotes very quickly by
typing M-RET TAB. (I find M-S-<right> way too cumbersome to use while
typing).
Since pressing TAB on a new entry (one with no body) doesn't do
anything right now, I think TAB in that case should do what M-S-
<right> does. This little snippet achieves that:
(defun org-indent-empty-items (arg)
(when (eq arg 'empty)
(goto-char (line-end-position))
(cond
((org-at-item-p) (org-indent-item 1))
((org-on-heading-p) (org-demote-subtree)))))
(add-hook 'org-pre-cycle-hook 'org-indent-empty-items)
This also works for regular lists.
John
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* Re: Making TAB a touch more magical
2009-10-17 0:59 Making TAB a touch more magical John Wiegley
@ 2009-10-17 6:55 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-02 13:18 ` Carsten Dominik
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-10-17 6:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: John Wiegley; +Cc: Org-mode Mode
On Oct 17, 2009, at 2:59 AM, John Wiegley wrote:
> In most "power" outliners on the Mac, pressing TAB indents the
> outline level of the current item. This lets you add subnotes very
> quickly by typing M-RET TAB. (I find M-S-<right> way too cumbersome
> to use while typing).
>
> Since pressing TAB on a new entry (one with no body) doesn't do
> anything right now, I think TAB in that case should do what M-S-
> <right> does. This little snippet achieves that:
>
> (defun org-indent-empty-items (arg)
> (when (eq arg 'empty)
> (goto-char (line-end-position))
> (cond
> ((org-at-item-p) (org-indent-item 1))
> ((org-on-heading-p) (org-demote-subtree)))))
>
> (add-hook 'org-pre-cycle-hook 'org-indent-empty-items)
If going this crazy, how about (extension for plain list still missing)
(defun org-indent-empty-items (arg)
(when (eq arg 'empty)
(goto-char (line-end-position))
(cond
((org-at-item-p) (org-indent-item 1))
((org-on-heading-p)
(if (equal this-command last-command)
(condition-case nil
(org-promote-subtree)
(error
(save-excursion
(goto-char (point-at-bol))
(and (looking-at "\\*+") (replace-match ""))
(org-insert-heading)
(org-demote-subtree))))
(org-demote-subtree))))))
(add-hook 'org-pre-cycle-hook 'org-indent-empty-items)
- carsten
>
> This also works for regular lists.
>
> John
>
>
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- Carsten
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* Re: Making TAB a touch more magical
2009-10-17 0:59 Making TAB a touch more magical John Wiegley
2009-10-17 6:55 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2009-11-02 13:18 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-02 19:56 ` Samuel Wales
2009-11-03 9:39 ` Carsten Dominik
1 sibling, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-11-02 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: John Wiegley; +Cc: Org-mode Mode
On Oct 17, 2009, at 2:59 AM, John Wiegley wrote:
> In most "power" outliners on the Mac, pressing TAB indents the
> outline level of the current item. This lets you add subnotes very
> quickly by typing M-RET TAB. (I find M-S-<right> way too cumbersome
> to use while typing).
>
> Since pressing TAB on a new entry (one with no body) doesn't do
> anything right now, I think TAB in that case should do what M-S-
> <right> does. This little snippet achieves that:
>
> (defun org-indent-empty-items (arg)
> (when (eq arg 'empty)
> (goto-char (line-end-position))
> (cond
> ((org-at-item-p) (org-indent-item 1))
> ((org-on-heading-p) (org-demote-subtree)))))
>
> (add-hook 'org-pre-cycle-hook 'org-indent-empty-items)
Hi John,
this is not a bad idea, but it is a bit unstable because
the definition of empty entry is a bit unstable, it
depends on empty lines and how they are treated.
An alternative would be to activate this special feature only
immediately
after starting a new entry, either by looking at last-command, or,
maybe better,
by doing this in entries which only have the stars and maybe a TODO
keyword, but
but no text yet.
Then, TAB could even walk you through a number of indentations, like
child,
and then parent, grandparent,..., all the way to top level, and then
back
to the initial level.
- Carsten
>
> This also works for regular lists.
>
> John
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
- Carsten
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* Re: Making TAB a touch more magical
2009-11-02 13:18 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2009-11-02 19:56 ` Samuel Wales
2009-11-03 5:29 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-03 9:39 ` Carsten Dominik
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Wales @ 2009-11-02 19:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Org-mode Mode
On 2009-11-02, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
> Then, TAB could even walk you through a number of indentations, like
> child,
> and then parent, grandparent,..., all the way to top level, and then
> back
> to the initial level.
I proposed something similar recently, with some detail. Will search
for it if you don't remember it.
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* Re: Making TAB a touch more magical
2009-11-02 19:56 ` Samuel Wales
@ 2009-11-03 5:29 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-11-03 5:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Samuel Wales; +Cc: Org-mode Mode
I do remember it, it is wating in my queue, and my reply to John was
inspired by it.
- Carsten
On Nov 2, 2009, at 8:56 PM, Samuel Wales wrote:
> On 2009-11-02, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Then, TAB could even walk you through a number of indentations, like
>> child,
>> and then parent, grandparent,..., all the way to top level, and then
>> back
>> to the initial level.
>
> I proposed something similar recently, with some detail. Will search
> for it if you don't remember it.
- Carsten
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* Re: Making TAB a touch more magical
2009-11-02 13:18 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-02 19:56 ` Samuel Wales
@ 2009-11-03 9:39 ` Carsten Dominik
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-11-03 9:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Org-mode Mode
On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
> On Oct 17, 2009, at 2:59 AM, John Wiegley wrote:
>
>> In most "power" outliners on the Mac, pressing TAB indents the
>> outline level of the current item. This lets you add subnotes very
>> quickly by typing M-RET TAB. (I find M-S-<right> way too
>> cumbersome to use while typing).
>>
>> Since pressing TAB on a new entry (one with no body) doesn't do
>> anything right now, I think TAB in that case should do what M-S-
>> <right> does. This little snippet achieves that:
>>
>> (defun org-indent-empty-items (arg)
>> (when (eq arg 'empty)
>> (goto-char (line-end-position))
>> (cond
>> ((org-at-item-p) (org-indent-item 1))
>> ((org-on-heading-p) (org-demote-subtree)))))
>>
>> (add-hook 'org-pre-cycle-hook 'org-indent-empty-items)
>
> Hi John,
>
> this is not a bad idea, but it is a bit unstable because
> the definition of empty entry is a bit unstable, it
> depends on empty lines and how they are treated.
>
> An alternative would be to activate this special feature only
> immediately
> after starting a new entry, either by looking at last-command, or,
> maybe better,
> by doing this in entries which only have the stars and maybe a TODO
> keyword, but
> but no text yet.
>
> Then, TAB could even walk you through a number of indentations, like
> child,
> and then parent, grandparent,..., all the way to top level, and then
> back
> to the initial level.
This actually does work now, both in empty headlines, and in empty
plain list items.
I find it *very* convenient.
>
> - Carsten
>
>>
>> This also works for regular lists.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
> - Carsten
>
>
>
- Carsten
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