From: Christian Wittern <cwittern@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Let's discuss citation and Org syntax
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:17:03 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51CBD8DF.8020403@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51a21b2e.0f84ec0a.33b9.ffff807f@mx.google.com>
Sorry about this late contribution to this thread. I just stumbled on the
RTF/ODF scan tool for Zotero at[1], which seems to do something similar to
the ideas ventilated in this thread. Since Zotero compatibility is high on
the list of desirables mentioned here, I thought it might be an interisting
point of reference.
This page also mentions that Zotero can be told to provide a "scannable
Cite" as output format, which works with things like
|{See | Smith, (2012) |p. 45 | for an example |zu:2433:WQVBH98K}
which the format engine than turns into
|
(See Smith, 2012, p. 45 for an example)
I wonder if it would be worthwhile if the citation handling in Org would
become compatible with this approach?
Christian W.
[1] http://zotero-odf-scan.github.io/zotero-odf-scan/
On 2013-05-26 23:23, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira wrote:
> I prefer the [cite:citekey] syntax similar to [fn:number] for footnotes.
>
> But no matter which syntax is chosen I think we can easily make reftex work
> with it. All we need is to set the variable reftex-cite-format [1] to a
> string with the desired format. For the syntax [cite:citekey] the string
> would be "[cite:%l]".
>
> [1] We probably need to make that a local variable in org-mode buffers so
> that the global value is kept on default for latex buffers.
>
> --
> Darlan
>
>
> At Thu, 23 May 2013 10:05:37 +0200,
> Christian Moe wrote:
>>
>> Matt Price writes:
>>> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com> wrote:
>>>> I have a rough, working example of this enabling Zotero cites for ODT
>>>> export (attached).
>>> Hi Christian,
>>>
>>> I'm really interested in this, as I use Zotero not only for writing
>>> but for group bibliographies in my courses. The broader conversation
>>> about the appropriate syntax is a bit beyond me,
>> Hi, Matt,
>>
>> As the org-zotero-export.el shows, getting Zotero references from Org
>> into ODT is pretty simple. That framework could be implemented whatever
>> syntax we end up with to take care of the details. I'm interested in
>> feedback on the syntax, though -- that is, on the way I'm using the
>> description part of the link to convey various bits of information to
>> Zotero. Is it worth pursuing, or would people prefer other ways of
>> doing it? If worth pursuing, could it be improved?
>>
>>> (1) How do you get the Zotero cite keys right now, and what method do
>>> you think would ultimately be the best to try for?
>> The best to try for: Something with as brilliant an interface as RefTex...
>>
>> Since this thread is on citation syntax, I think I'll gather my thoughts
>> about how to get there (zotero-plain? Zotero Server API? sqlite? word
>> processor plugin emulation?), and about your other questions, and start
>> another Zotero-related thread in a day or two.
>>
>> Right now: I'm still depending on Quick Copy with a custom Zotero
>> translator. That is, I tab from Emacs to Firefox, look up a reference in
>> the Zotero pane, and Quick Copy (C-S-c) to a formatted link to the
>> clipboard. Tab back to Emacs, yank the link, manually tweak the
>> description as necessary. RefTex it ain't, and it's cumbersome for
>> multiple citations, but it works.
>>
>>
>> Yours,
>> Christian
>>
>>
>
--
Christian Wittern, Kyoto
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-27 6:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-21 12:21 Let's discuss citation and Org syntax Rasmus
2013-05-21 12:25 ` Rasmus
2013-05-22 9:02 ` Christian Moe
2013-05-22 16:23 ` Matt Price
2013-05-23 8:05 ` Christian Moe
2013-05-26 14:23 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2013-05-26 19:12 ` Christian Moe
2013-06-27 6:17 ` Christian Wittern [this message]
2013-05-21 17:55 ` Viktor Rosenfeld
2013-05-21 18:18 ` Rasmus
2013-05-21 21:34 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-05-22 21:53 ` Matt Lundin
2013-05-22 5:36 ` Erik Hetzner
2013-05-22 3:51 ` Christian Wittern
2014-01-02 8:08 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-01-02 15:51 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-01-02 18:33 ` Eric Schulte
2014-01-02 19:12 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-01-03 18:32 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-01-03 19:13 ` John Hendy
2014-01-03 20:27 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-01-03 21:56 ` John Hendy
2014-01-04 10:17 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-01-04 14:52 ` John Hendy
2014-01-03 21:15 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
[not found] ` <87fvoy4r1l.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>
2014-01-08 12:53 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
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