From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: lele@metapensiero.it, joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
bzg@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, sdl.web@gmail.com
Subject: Re: org-export raises stringp nil error
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 01:00:14 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <513A515E.50503@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83hakmyoix.fsf@gnu.org>
On 08.03.2013 18:06, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
>> Cc: lele@metapensiero.it, joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, bzg@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, sdl.web@gmail.com
>> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:18:19 +0400
>>
>>>> I like the idea of stripping big bundled packages (like org, gnus,
>>>> cedet, maybe even tramp, if that's possible).
>>>
>>> That would certainly mean more problems for users to set them up with
>>> a particular version of Emacs, because there's no longer a clear way
>>> of getting the version of package X that correspond to Emacs version
>>> N.M.
>>
>> There won't be such correspondence.
>
> And therein lies the problem.
>
>> AFAIK, all 4 packages I mentioned above maintain backward compatible
>> codebases, so it's not like they depend on the latest Emacs.
>
> When I install a package, I usually want its latest *stable* version
> that is compatible with the Emacs version I run. As great as
Well, you're not getting it now. If you're using Emacs 23, you get the
old version of Org that was bundled with it, and not some newer one that
is still compatible with it (that would be the current stable release, I
imagine).
> compatibility stuff is, I trust testing more, as I need to do
> something each day that doesn't involve debugging Emacs and my other
> tools.
Easier access to newer versions for users means a bigger testing pool.
Yes, the combination of "latest org + latest Emacs" may end up getting
tested less, but that might be an acceptable tradeoff.
Also, since org-mode or gnus won't update without explicit action from
you, working with/on Emacs trunk may become more stable, because it will
mean less moving parts.
> Also think about various package managers for GNU/Linux distros, which
> need to specify on what version of Emacs package X depends.
They already do, at least for some packages:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/gnus
http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/org-mode
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-08 21:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2013-03-07 21:14 ` org-export raises stringp nil error Glenn Morris
2013-03-07 22:38 ` Bastien
2013-03-08 1:36 ` Glenn Morris
2013-03-08 6:40 ` Bastien
2013-03-08 7:16 ` Leo Liu
2013-03-08 7:37 ` Bastien
2013-03-08 7:44 ` Leo Liu
2013-03-08 7:56 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-03-08 8:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-08 9:15 ` joakim
2013-03-08 9:17 ` Bastien
2013-03-08 9:19 ` Bastien
2013-03-08 9:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-08 10:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-08 11:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-08 14:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-08 21:00 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2013-03-08 16:34 ` Achim Gratz
2013-03-08 19:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-08 9:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-08 10:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-08 11:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-08 14:21 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-03-08 15:42 ` Bastien
2013-03-08 16:29 ` Nick Dokos
2013-03-08 16:38 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-08 17:09 ` Bastien
2013-03-08 17:41 ` Nick Dokos
2013-03-08 18:01 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-08 18:05 ` Nick Dokos
2013-03-08 19:40 ` Achim Gratz
2013-03-08 16:39 ` Bastien
2013-03-08 22:37 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-03-08 7:47 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-03-08 7:53 ` Bastien
2013-03-08 8:27 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-08 8:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-08 9:56 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-08 8:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-08 9:12 ` Bastien
2013-03-08 8:20 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
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