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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: throaway@yahoo.com
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bug: Recurring items NEVER show up in timeline unaccompanied
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:05:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D680B7A-9723-415B-9AD2-119A3CE61FCD@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <op.vsuyyibvzpgdil@hermione2008.sd.cox.net>


On 24.3.2011, at 18:31, Mark S wrote:

> Hello Carsten et al,
> 
> --- On Thu, 3/24/11, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 1. Be satisfied with the way things are, just realize
>>   that repeaters only show up on the first date when
>>   the event happens for the first time.
> 
> This would mean that you could never *trust* the
> timeline when dealing with events more than a week or
> two out. You would always have that lingering worry
> that you forgot to bump one of the repeaters.
> 
>> 2. Use the agenda, restricted to a single file, for a
>>   time range you specify.  This has the advantage
>>   that also diary sexps will work properly - the
>>   timeline currently has no way to deal with these.
> 
> This would be great if there were a "sparse"
> agenda. There isn't a way to make the agenda not show
> empty days is there? As it is, if you make an agenda
> extending out a year, you will have to wade through
> several hundred lines worth of empty days.
> 
>> 3. Change the section of the timeline code that
>>   produces the list of interesting dates.
> 
> That seems like a good solution. Is it difficult?
> 
>> 4. Define a variable that will make the timeline
>>   always look at *every* date in the range covered
>>   by the file.  And live with the fact that
>>   constructing the view might take long.  Maybe it
>>   will not even to terribly long if you really use
>>   this view for single projects.  This would be easy
>>   to implement.
> 
> This would work too, I think. Creating an agenda that
> goes out one year only took about 3 seconds on my
> not-state-of-the-art machine. Presumably the timeline
> would be faster, since it wouldn't produce all the
> extra gap lines.
> 
> Actually, when I tried to make a year long agenda using
> v-y I spent just about as much getting past the "are
> you sure" screens as it took to build the agenda.
> 
> The ideal solution would be that the Timeline view
> would process dates exactly like the agenda, including
> multiple-files, but display them like the traditional
> timeline, with ranges of dates omitted.

This is already possible, by binding the variable
org-agenda-show-all-dates to nil around the call to make
the agenda (for examples using the options section of a
custom agenda command).  So the only missing piece for
your preferred solution is the determination of starting
dates and end date in  a useful and automatic way.  Maybe
I can take a look some time this week and see if 
there is a simple way to replace the time line with
something better.

- Carsten

> 
> Mark
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-28 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-14 19:02 Recurring items don't always show up in timeline Mark S
2011-03-14 20:36 ` Chris Randle
2011-03-14 22:36 ` Mark S
2011-03-15 15:39   ` Chris Randle
2011-03-14 22:55 ` Mark S
2011-03-14 23:29   ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-15 15:57   ` Chris Randle
2011-03-15 16:59     ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-15 18:17       ` Chris Randle
2011-03-15 17:34   ` Mark S
2011-03-15 18:20     ` Chris Randle
2011-03-16 17:06   ` Mark S
2011-03-18 19:58   ` Bug: " Mark S
2011-03-18 21:20     ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-19 17:45       ` Chris Randle
2011-03-19 18:46         ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-22 18:43     ` Bug: Recurring items NEVER show up in timeline unaccompanied Mark S
2011-03-22 18:59       ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-22 20:10         ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-24  7:08           ` Carsten Dominik
2011-03-24 18:40             ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-24 17:31       ` Mark S
2011-03-28 17:05         ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-03-23 18:02 Mark S
2011-03-23 18:56 ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-29 17:38 Mark S
2011-03-29 17:50 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-03-29 21:59 Mark S

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