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From: Erik Iverson <eriki@ccbr.umn.edu>
To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	Alan L Tyree <alantyree@gmail.com>,
	Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: a bit offtopic, fonts in exported PDF documents - oops
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 10:12:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C7BCA58.7070503@ccbr.umn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <26419.1283179859@gamaville.dokosmarshall.org>



Nick Dokos wrote:
> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have not followed this thread closely, so if the discussion ends
>> in something we should change in Org, please write to me and let me
>> know explicitly.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
> 
> Erik Iverson might have a different take but my take is that there is
> no major issue. Two minor issues:
> 
> One possible change to org is an addition to the documentation
> recommending the texlive-fonts-extra package: it includes the cm-super
> Type1 fonts - type1 fonts behave better with Evince (and possibly other
> PDF viewers) than type3 fonts.
> 

That would be my thought, too.  However, it appears that cm-super is
only "suggested" by texlive-fonts-extra, so in general
will not get installed with that package, unless you ask for
suggested packages also. (This is all Debian/Ubuntu by the way).

Both this system and MikTeX
offer cm-super as a standalone package, so perhaps just recommending
that package (cm-super) would suffice?  I confirmed that cm-super is
not one of the default MikTeX packages in a standard install, so
Windows users may benefit from this advice, too.

> The other possible change that Erik identified is the deletion of the
> t1enc package from the list of packages that org includes in exported
> LaTeX by default. I haven't tried without it, but it does indeed seem to
> be an obsolete remnant of times long past.

I have tried without it.  I was unable to to see any differences between
using \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} and adding the \usepackage{t1enc}
line. This makes sense given the FAQ answer below.

  The TeX FAQ
> (http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=t1enc ) says:
> 
> ,----
> | Why use fontenc rather than t1enc?
> | 
> | In the very earliest days of LaTeX2e, the only way to use the T1
> | encoding was t1enc; with the summer 1994 “production” release, the
> | fontenc package appeared, and provided comprehensive support for use of
> | the encoding.
> | 
> | Nevertheless, the t1enc package remains (as part of the LaTeX 2.09
> | compatibility code), but it does very little: it merely selects font
> | encoding T1, and leaves to the user the business of generating the
> | character codes required.
> | 
> | Generating such character codes could be a simple matter, if the T1
> | encoding matched any widely-supported encoding standard, since in that
> | case, one might expect one’s keyboard to generate the character
> | codes. However, the T1 encoding is a mix of several standard encodings,
> | and includes code points in areas of the table which standard encodings
> | specifically exclude, so no T1 keyboards have been (or ever will be)
> | manufactured.
> | 
> | By contrast, the fontenc package generates the T1 code points from
> | ordinary LaTeX commands (e.g., it generates the é character codepoint
> | from the command \’e). So, unless you have program-generated T1 input,
> | use \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} rather than \usepackage{t1enc}.
> `----
> 
> Nick

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-30 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-26 17:34 a bit offtopic, fonts in exported PDF documents Erik Iverson
2010-08-26 18:02 ` John Hendy
2010-08-26 21:14   ` Erik Iverson
2010-08-26 21:49     ` Markus Heller
2010-08-26 22:07       ` Erik Iverson
2010-08-26 22:50         ` Markus Heller
2010-08-26 23:08         ` Nick Dokos
2010-08-26 23:38           ` Nick Dokos
2010-08-26 22:18     ` John Hendy
2010-08-26 22:44     ` Nick Dokos
2010-08-26 21:37 ` Alan L Tyree
2010-08-26 21:40   ` Erik Iverson
2010-08-26 21:41 ` a bit offtopic, fonts in exported PDF documents - oops Alan L Tyree
2010-08-26 21:46   ` Erik Iverson
2010-08-30  7:43   ` Carsten Dominik
2010-08-30 14:50     ` Nick Dokos
2010-08-30 15:12       ` Erik Iverson [this message]
2010-08-30 15:58         ` Nick Dokos
2010-08-30 19:04           ` Joost Kremers
2010-08-31  6:31           ` Carsten Dominik
2010-08-31  6:51             ` Nick Dokos
2010-08-31  7:09               ` Carsten Dominik

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