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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Eric Schulte <eschulte@cs.unm.edu>
Subject: Re: [BUG] in Release 8.2 - editing code in indirect buffer
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:09:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B85FCE2-E97D-429F-87C2-A553025F1D96@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m24n999ytq.fsf@krugs.de>

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On 25.9.2013, at 08:53, Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> wrote:

> "Sebastien Vauban" <sva-news@mygooglest.com>
> writes:
> 
>> Hi Carsten,
>> 
>> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>> On 24.9.2013, at 18:17, Sebastien Vauban <sva-news@mygooglest.com> wrote:
>>>> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>>>> On 23.9.2013, at 09:40, Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When starting to edit a code block via C-c ' everything works as expected
>>>>>> and the code block is highlighted and an indirect buffer is opened.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When I click into the highlighted block, I an "send" to the indirect buffer.
>>>>>> This behavior changes, after saving with C-s, even when nothing has been
>>>>>> edited: the area in the original org file looses its magic, and looks normal
>>>>>> again and can also be edited!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The indirect buffer stays functional and, upon close via C-c ' saves the
>>>>>> changes into the original buffer and *overwrites* changes done in this block
>>>>>> in the org document.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is a bug which is difficult to fix in all generality. What should really
>>>>> happen is that the text in the original buffer is made read-only. But so far
>>>>> this does not happen in our implementation (due to Dan Davison IIRC). The
>>>>> reason for this is that read-only text properties left by accident in a
>>>>> buffer are difficult to get rid of.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are many things the user could go back and screw up the original.
>>>>> That's why Org choses to protect with highlighting with an overlay. Note that
>>>>> this is not a protection against editing, but it is a visual warning.
>>>> 
>>>> I never knew that "your" goal was to make the code block read-only in the Org
>>>> buffer. Note that I would be really opposed to such a change. Editing code in
>>>> the prose would really become a pain to me -- please know that I NEVER use the
>>>> indirect buffer.
>>> 
>>> I only mean while there is a special buffer also editing this block!
>> 
>> Pfff!  I'm relieved -- I should have understood it ;-)
> 
> While we are at editing code blocks inline (I also do this quite often).
> 
> This might have been asked before, but in code blocks we have
> 
> - syntax highlighting
> - indenting using the code block language settings
> 
> but would it be possible to have, when the cursor is in a code block,
> the menus and shortcuts for the language mode enabled, i.e. complete
> support for editing the code block language, as in the special buffer,
> but inline in org? Evaluationg single lines of code directly from the
> code block in org would be *brilliant*.

This is very complicated, because such functionality needs
the entire environment of a mode.  I think there are some solutions
which allow multiple major modes - but I don't think we will go
there with Org.

However, I think this is really a question to Eric Schulte (in CC).

- Carsten

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rainer
> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>>  Seb
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> 
> -- 
> Rainer M. Krug
> 
> email: RMKrug<at>gmail<dot>com
> 
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-25  7:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-19 20:27 Release 8.2 Carsten Dominik
2013-09-20  4:32 ` Mehul Sanghvi
2013-09-20  5:07   ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-20  9:40 ` Alexander Baier
2013-09-20 10:01   ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-20 11:06 ` BUG?: BABEL - " Rainer M Krug
2013-09-20 11:06 ` Rainer M Krug
2013-09-21 13:54   ` Rainer M Krug
2013-09-21 15:02     ` BUG?: Org-src " Eric Schulte
2013-09-21 15:25     ` BUG?: BABEL " Ista Zahn
2013-09-20 11:17 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-23  7:40 ` [BUG] in Release 8.2 - editing code in indirect buffer Rainer M Krug
2013-09-24 14:01   ` Rainer M Krug
2013-09-24 16:02   ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-24 16:17     ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-24 16:35       ` Carsten Dominik
     [not found]         ` <578DF849-8046-47A6-879C-FC5874BE591B-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-24 16:53           ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-25  6:53             ` Rainer M Krug
2013-09-25  7:09               ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2013-09-25  7:38                 ` Rainer M Krug
2013-09-25 13:13                   ` Eric Schulte
2013-09-25 14:00                     ` Rainer M Krug
2013-09-25 19:39                     ` Andreas Leha
2013-09-26  8:11                       ` Rainer M Krug
2013-09-25  6:48     ` Rainer M Krug
2013-09-25  7:15       ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-25  7:29         ` Rainer M Krug
2013-10-02 22:55 ` Release 8.2 Mike McLean

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