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From: Martin Pohlack <mp26@os.inf.tu-dresden.de>
To: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Smart(er) word wrapping with org-mode and visual-line-mode
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 20:09:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B4A25E3.4020401@os.inf.tu-dresden.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57BC09A2-08C5-43B0-B255-E33EA8ABE4AE@gmail.com>

Hi Carsten and Matthew,

On 08.01.2010 18:24, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Martin Pohlack wrote:
>> I just tried this out (only for headlines up to now) and it seems to
>> work great.
>>
>> Are there any plans to integrate something like this into upstream?
>> Especially the wrapping of headlines would enable extensive tag usage.
> 
> I have been thinking about that, but not arrived at a conclusion.  One  
> thing is the interaction with org-indent-mode.  That mode already does  
> the wrapping for headlines correctly by adding `wrap-prefix', and it  
> will look really good if you set the variable word-wrap to t.   

Ah, I wasn't aware of that.  I think the documentation to org-indent
doesn't mention wrapping (14.6 A cleaner outline view).  How about
something like this:

  org-indent-mode also sets the wrap-prefix property, such that
  visual-line-mode (or purely setting word-wrap) wraps long lines
  (including headlines) correctly indented.

> However, the showstoppers are the following:
> 
> 1. I cannot bring myself to turn off truncate-lines, because it
>     messes up tables and code examples badly, and these are major
>     components of my work.

Right, I haven't used it to much up to now.

>     I have actually put in a feature
>     request into Emacs for a property `truncate-line', to be
>     able to control this line by line.  I got positive feedback,
>     but I don't know when any of the developers finds time
>     to implement it - I cannot do that myself.

Awesome.  This sounds like the way to go.

> 2. Visual-line-mode is also a no go for me, I use keyboard
>     macros a lot and need to be able to rely on the fact that
>     [down] move the cursor into the next physical line.

I sometimes like visual navigation in wrapped text and my own motion
commands.  I have two commands to move visually explicitly (bound to
s-down, s-up (super-...)).

(defun next-visual-line (&optional arg try-vscroll)
  (interactive "^p\np")
  (let ((line-move-visual t))
    (with-no-warnings
      (next-line arg try-vscroll))))

(defun previous-visual-line (&optional arg try-vscroll)
  (interactive "^p\np")
  (let ((line-move-visual t))
    (with-no-warnings
      (previous-line arg try-vscroll))))

> So I am not sure how to handle this.  We could turn Matthews
> code into a module that users can turn on if they wish.

I'm using Matthew's module right now for two reasons.

* I had some trouble configuring org-indent-mode to only handle
  line-wrapping for headlines, i.e., it shall only set wrap-prefix and
  do nothing else.  It always wanted to indent my headlines and body
  texts additionally.  Is this possible?

* Also, emacs segfaulted deterministically after globally collapsing
  all trees with org-indent-mode active.  I have to look into this ...

Cheers,
Martin

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-10 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-03 10:14 Smart(er) word wrapping with org-mode and visual-line-mode Matthew Dempsky
2009-12-03 14:23 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-12-03 19:10   ` Matthew Dempsky
2010-01-06 15:25 ` Martin Pohlack
2010-01-08 17:24   ` Carsten Dominik
2010-01-10 19:09     ` Martin Pohlack [this message]
2010-01-10 21:07       ` Carsten Dominik
2010-01-15  7:25       ` Carsten Dominik

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