From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Martin Pohlack <mp26@os.inf.tu-dresden.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Smart(er) word wrapping with org-mode and visual-line-mode
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 22:07:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <141A5FC1-7E42-43B1-AC66-ADB0EDB9F67C@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B4A25E3.4020401@os.inf.tu-dresden.de>
On Jan 10, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Martin Pohlack wrote:
> Hi Carsten and Matthew,
>
> On 08.01.2010 18:24, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> On Jan 6, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Martin Pohlack wrote:
>>> I just tried this out (only for headlines up to now) and it seems to
>>> work great.
>>>
>>> Are there any plans to integrate something like this into upstream?
>>> Especially the wrapping of headlines would enable extensive tag
>>> usage.
>>
>> I have been thinking about that, but not arrived at a conclusion.
>> One
>> thing is the interaction with org-indent-mode. That mode already
>> does
>> the wrapping for headlines correctly by adding `wrap-prefix', and it
>> will look really good if you set the variable word-wrap to t.
>
> Ah, I wasn't aware of that. I think the documentation to org-indent
> doesn't mention wrapping (14.6 A cleaner outline view). How about
> something like this:
>
> org-indent-mode also sets the wrap-prefix property, such that
> visual-line-mode (or purely setting word-wrap) wraps long lines
> (including headlines) correctly indented.
>
>> However, the showstoppers are the following:
>>
>> 1. I cannot bring myself to turn off truncate-lines, because it
>> messes up tables and code examples badly, and these are major
>> components of my work.
>
> Right, I haven't used it to much up to now.
>
>> I have actually put in a feature
>> request into Emacs for a property `truncate-line', to be
>> able to control this line by line. I got positive feedback,
>> but I don't know when any of the developers finds time
>> to implement it - I cannot do that myself.
>
> Awesome. This sounds like the way to go.
>
>> 2. Visual-line-mode is also a no go for me, I use keyboard
>> macros a lot and need to be able to rely on the fact that
>> [down] move the cursor into the next physical line.
>
> I sometimes like visual navigation in wrapped text and my own motion
> commands. I have two commands to move visually explicitly (bound to
> s-down, s-up (super-...)).
>
> (defun next-visual-line (&optional arg try-vscroll)
> (interactive "^p\np")
> (let ((line-move-visual t))
> (with-no-warnings
> (next-line arg try-vscroll))))
>
> (defun previous-visual-line (&optional arg try-vscroll)
> (interactive "^p\np")
> (let ((line-move-visual t))
> (with-no-warnings
> (previous-line arg try-vscroll))))
Jup, good way out.
>
>> So I am not sure how to handle this. We could turn Matthews
>> code into a module that users can turn on if they wish.
>
> I'm using Matthew's module right now for two reasons.
>
> * I had some trouble configuring org-indent-mode to only handle
> line-wrapping for headlines, i.e., it shall only set wrap-prefix and
> do nothing else. It always wanted to indent my headlines and body
> texts additionally. Is this possible?
>
> * Also, emacs segfaulted deterministically after globally collapsing
> all trees with org-indent-mode active. I have to look into this ...
You need a bleeding-edge Emacs. The official 23.1 release indeed
segfaults with this, but this bug has been fixed in the mean time.
- Carsten
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
- Carsten
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-10 21:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-03 10:14 Smart(er) word wrapping with org-mode and visual-line-mode Matthew Dempsky
2009-12-03 14:23 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-12-03 19:10 ` Matthew Dempsky
2010-01-06 15:25 ` Martin Pohlack
2010-01-08 17:24 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-01-10 19:09 ` Martin Pohlack
2010-01-10 21:07 ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2010-01-15 7:25 ` Carsten Dominik
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