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* Deadline->scheduled workflow
@ 2010-02-15  9:56 Norbert Zeh
  2010-02-16  4:53 ` Carsten Dominik
  2010-02-17 22:28 ` Carsten Dominik
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Norbert Zeh @ 2010-02-15  9:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi folks,

I have a question whether the following workflow is possible in orgmode:

- I create a task with a given deadline some time in the future.  I
  don't want to worry about scheduling it.

- I configure deadline warnings to I get a warning that a deadline is
  coming up, say 4 weeks before the deadline.  When I see this warning,
  I know I will have to schedule the task to work on it.

- Now, with the 4-weeks warning, it would be rather annoying to have the
  task show up on every day for the 4 weeks before the task needs to be
  completed.  So I would like upcoming deadlines to show up in my agenda
  view only if the task is not scheduled yet.

Ideally, I think a 2-layered warning system for deadlines would be
useful above.  Warn 4 weeks in advance for unscheduled tasks that have a
deadline coming up.  Warn, say, 7 days in advance for scheduled but
not completed tasks that have a deadline coming up.  Is there any way to
do any of this in orgmode, possibly with some lisp hacking?

Thanks,
Norbert

-- 
"And it happened all the time that the compromise between two perfectly
rational alternatives was something that made no sense at all."
  -- Neal Stephenson, Anathem

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* Re: Deadline->scheduled workflow
  2010-02-15  9:56 Deadline->scheduled workflow Norbert Zeh
@ 2010-02-16  4:53 ` Carsten Dominik
  2010-02-16  8:42   ` Norbert Zeh
  2010-02-17 22:28 ` Carsten Dominik
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-02-16  4:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Norbert Zeh; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Norbert,

this is currently not possible, I am afraid.

You could deal with it by hand, by changing the warning period once  
you have scheduled the item.

- Carsten

On Feb 15, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Norbert Zeh wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I have a question whether the following workflow is possible in  
> orgmode:
>
> - I create a task with a given deadline some time in the future.  I
>  don't want to worry about scheduling it.
>
> - I configure deadline warnings to I get a warning that a deadline is
>  coming up, say 4 weeks before the deadline.  When I see this warning,
>  I know I will have to schedule the task to work on it.
>
> - Now, with the 4-weeks warning, it would be rather annoying to have  
> the
>  task show up on every day for the 4 weeks before the task needs to be
>  completed.  So I would like upcoming deadlines to show up in my  
> agenda
>  view only if the task is not scheduled yet.
>
> Ideally, I think a 2-layered warning system for deadlines would be
> useful above.  Warn 4 weeks in advance for unscheduled tasks that  
> have a
> deadline coming up.  Warn, say, 7 days in advance for scheduled but
> not completed tasks that have a deadline coming up.  Is there any  
> way to
> do any of this in orgmode, possibly with some lisp hacking?
>
> Thanks,
> Norbert
>
> -- 
> "And it happened all the time that the compromise between two  
> perfectly
> rational alternatives was something that made no sense at all."
>  -- Neal Stephenson, Anathem
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode

- Carsten

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* Re: Deadline->scheduled workflow
  2010-02-16  4:53 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2010-02-16  8:42   ` Norbert Zeh
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Norbert Zeh @ 2010-02-16  8:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Carsten Dominik [2010.02.16 0553 +0100]:
> this is currently not possible, I am afraid.
>
> You could deal with it by hand, by changing the warning period once you 
> have scheduled the item.

Thanks for the answer.

Cheers,
Norbert

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* Re: Deadline->scheduled workflow
  2010-02-15  9:56 Deadline->scheduled workflow Norbert Zeh
  2010-02-16  4:53 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2010-02-17 22:28 ` Carsten Dominik
  2010-02-17 22:43   ` Norbert Zeh
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-02-17 22:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Norbert Zeh; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Norbert,

Robert Goldman had the same request - that makes two of you.

Implemented now, please use the variable

org-agenda-skip-deadline-prewarning-if-scheduled.

To get the two-level system you were proposing, set the variable to
a number like 7.

(setq org-deadline-warning-days 30
       org-agenda-skip-deadline-prewarning-if-scheduled 7)


HTH

- Carsten

On Feb 15, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Norbert Zeh wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I have a question whether the following workflow is possible in  
> orgmode:
>
> - I create a task with a given deadline some time in the future.  I
>  don't want to worry about scheduling it.
>
> - I configure deadline warnings to I get a warning that a deadline is
>  coming up, say 4 weeks before the deadline.  When I see this warning,
>  I know I will have to schedule the task to work on it.
>
> - Now, with the 4-weeks warning, it would be rather annoying to have  
> the
>  task show up on every day for the 4 weeks before the task needs to be
>  completed.  So I would like upcoming deadlines to show up in my  
> agenda
>  view only if the task is not scheduled yet.
>
> Ideally, I think a 2-layered warning system for deadlines would be
> useful above.  Warn 4 weeks in advance for unscheduled tasks that  
> have a
> deadline coming up.  Warn, say, 7 days in advance for scheduled but
> not completed tasks that have a deadline coming up.  Is there any  
> way to
> do any of this in orgmode, possibly with some lisp hacking?
>
> Thanks,
> Norbert
>
> -- 
> "And it happened all the time that the compromise between two  
> perfectly
> rational alternatives was something that made no sense at all."
>  -- Neal Stephenson, Anathem
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode

- Carsten

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* Re: Deadline->scheduled workflow
  2010-02-17 22:28 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2010-02-17 22:43   ` Norbert Zeh
  2010-02-19 23:05     ` Ryan Thompson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Norbert Zeh @ 2010-02-17 22:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Carsten Dominik [2010.02.17 2328 +0100]:
> Hi Norbert,
>
> Robert Goldman had the same request - that makes two of you.
>
> Implemented now, please use the variable

Thanks a million, Carsten.  I don't know how I would make it through the
day without org-mode!

Cheers,
Norbert

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* Re: Deadline->scheduled workflow
  2010-02-17 22:43   ` Norbert Zeh
@ 2010-02-19 23:05     ` Ryan Thompson
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ryan Thompson @ 2010-02-19 23:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Org-Mode List

This is cool. I'll test this out. My personal preference would be that
a scheduled date should simply suppress deadline warnings before that
date, and have no effect after it. I'll see if I can implement this as
an option.

-Ryan

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Norbert Zeh <nzeh@cs.dal.ca> wrote:
> Carsten Dominik [2010.02.17 2328 +0100]:
>> Hi Norbert,
>>
>> Robert Goldman had the same request - that makes two of you.
>>
>> Implemented now, please use the variable
>
> Thanks a million, Carsten.  I don't know how I would make it through the
> day without org-mode!
>
> Cheers,
> Norbert
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>

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