* Help with agenda-custom commands
@ 2008-09-24 23:16 Paul Holcomb
2008-09-28 5:16 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Paul Holcomb @ 2008-09-24 23:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
I'm pretty new to elisp and I'm having difficulty figuring out how
to implement two things in org-agenda-custom-commands:
*) Is there a simple way to construct an agenda view that:
-shows all past scheduled events for one TODO keyword only
-skips for all others
The only way I could figure out it could work is to write a large
org-agenda-skip function that explicitly looks at subtrees and
duplicates the org-scheduled-past-days check code.
Unless I'm mistaken a block view won't work because the value of
org-scheduled-past-days is local to the agenda command and not each
block inside of it.
*) Using a defconst symbol or function that evaluates to a stringp
in place of an actual string in for the match field.
ex:
("A" "" tags-todo 'org-pah-todo-exclude nil nil)
(type-of org-pah-todo-exclude)
==> stringp
I also tried using concat and format for that argument. The error
is always:
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp (quote org-pah-todo-exclude))
string-match("/+" (quote org-pah-todo-exclude))
org-make-tags-matcher((quote org-pah-todo-exclude))
org-tags-view((4) (quote org-pah-todo-exclude))
It seems like the evaluation order is at fault, but I couldn't get further.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
--
Paul Holcomb *pholcomb \@ cpoint net*
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* Re: Help with agenda-custom commands
2008-09-24 23:16 Help with agenda-custom commands Paul Holcomb
@ 2008-09-28 5:16 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-09-30 16:40 ` Paul Holcomb
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-09-28 5:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pholcomb; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
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Hi Paul,
On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:16 AM, Paul Holcomb wrote:
>
> I'm pretty new to elisp and I'm having difficulty figuring out how
> to implement two things in org-agenda-custom-commands:
>
> *) Is there a simple way to construct an agenda view that:
> -shows all past scheduled events for one TODO keyword only
> -skips for all others
>
> The only way I could figure out it could work is to write a large
> org-agenda-skip function that explicitly looks at subtrees and
> duplicates the org-scheduled-past-days check code.
>
> Unless I'm mistaken a block view won't work because the value of
> org-scheduled-past-days is local to the agenda command and not each
> block inside of it.
I have not tested this, but you might be able to use the general tags/
property/todo matcher
on `C-c a m' like this:
SCHEDULED<"<today>"/!+MYTODOKEYWORD
> *) Using a defconst symbol or function that evaluates to a stringp
> in place of an actual string in for the match field.
>
> ex:
> ("A" "" tags-todo 'org-pah-todo-exclude nil nil)
>
>
> (type-of org-pah-todo-exclude)
> ==> stringp
>
> I also tried using concat and format for that argument. The error
> is always:
>
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp (quote
> org-pah-todo-exclude))
> string-match("/+" (quote org-pah-todo-exclude))
> org-make-tags-matcher((quote org-pah-todo-exclude))
> org-tags-view((4) (quote org-pah-todo-exclude))
>
> It seems like the evaluation order is at fault, but I couldn't get
> further.
indeed, currently the match entry is not evaluated. I guess we could
do that, but it would involve changing several functions. I would
need a convincing use case before I invest the time. How would you
want to use this?
- Carsten
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* Re: Help with agenda-custom commands
2008-09-28 5:16 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2008-09-30 16:40 ` Paul Holcomb
2008-10-01 9:01 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Paul Holcomb @ 2008-09-30 16:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, pholcomb
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 07:16:41AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> >*) Is there a simple way to construct an agenda view that:
> > -shows all past scheduled events for one TODO keyword only
> > -skips for all others
> I have not tested this, but you might be able to use the general tags/
> property/todo matcher
> on `C-c a m' like this:
>
> SCHEDULED<"<today>"/!+MYTODOKEYWORD
This works, but not for a day or week view.
On the positive side, while I was trying to figure out how to do
this, I've started to rethink how I'm using the different date
keywords.
I was originally trying to overload the meaning of SCHEDULED. Making
a TODO item that starts in the future and then will continue showing
up until done (as in the manual) for "WAITING" items, but also as a
TODO item that starts in the future, but then should become a normal
TODO item for everything not a "WAITING" item.
I think a better approach to the second one is going to be using a
property like ACTIVEON, like so:
:PROPERTIES:
:ACTIVEON: <2008-10-01 Wed>
:END:
I'm still at the idea stage here, but think it could work with a hook
similar to org-expiry.el or org-depend.el
> >*) Using a defconst symbol or function that evaluates to a stringp
> >in place of an actual string in for the match field.
> >
> > It seems like the evaluation order is at fault, but I couldn't get
> >further.
>
> indeed, currently the match entry is not evaluated. I guess we could
> do that, but it would involve changing several functions. I would
> need a convincing use case before I invest the time. How would you
> want to use this?
Totally not important. I was just trying to clean up some of my
agenda functions and feared I was missing something basic.
--
Paul Holcomb *pholcomb \@ cpoint net*
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* Re: Help with agenda-custom commands
2008-09-30 16:40 ` Paul Holcomb
@ 2008-10-01 9:01 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-10-01 9:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pholcomb; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Sep 30, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Paul Holcomb wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 07:16:41AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
>>> *) Is there a simple way to construct an agenda view that:
>>> -shows all past scheduled events for one TODO keyword only
>>> -skips for all others
>
>> I have not tested this, but you might be able to use the general
>> tags/
>> property/todo matcher
>> on `C-c a m' like this:
>>
>> SCHEDULED<"<today>"/!+MYTODOKEYWORD
>
> This works, but not for a day or week view.
Yes, correct, you cannot do this for the agenda.....
>
>
> On the positive side, while I was trying to figure out how to do
> this, I've started to rethink how I'm using the different date
> keywords.
>
> I was originally trying to overload the meaning of SCHEDULED. Making
> a TODO item that starts in the future and then will continue showing
> up until done (as in the manual) for "WAITING" items, but also as a
> TODO item that starts in the future, but then should become a normal
> TODO item for everything not a "WAITING" item.
>
> I think a better approach to the second one is going to be using a
> property like ACTIVEON, like so:
>
> :PROPERTIES:
> :ACTIVEON: <2008-10-01 Wed>
> :END:
>
> I'm still at the idea stage here, but think it could work with a hook
> similar to org-expiry.el or org-depend.el
Well, keep thinking and keep us posted.
>
>
>>> *) Using a defconst symbol or function that evaluates to a stringp
>>> in place of an actual string in for the match field.
>>>
>>> It seems like the evaluation order is at fault, but I couldn't get
>>> further.
>>
>> indeed, currently the match entry is not evaluated. I guess we could
>> do that, but it would involve changing several functions. I would
>> need a convincing use case before I invest the time. How would you
>> want to use this?
>
> Totally not important. I was just trying to clean up some of my
> agenda functions and feared I was missing something basic.
OK.
- Carsten
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* Re: Help with agenda-custom commands
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@ 2008-10-01 13:19 ` Robert Goldman
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From: Robert Goldman @ 2008-10-01 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:40:46 -0500
> From: Paul Holcomb <pholcomb@cpoint.net>
> Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Help with agenda-custom commands
> To: Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl>
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, pholcomb@cpoint.net
> Message-ID: <20080930164045.GC28285@cpoint.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 07:16:41AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
>>> *) Is there a simple way to construct an agenda view that:
>>> -shows all past scheduled events for one TODO keyword only
>>> -skips for all others
>
>> I have not tested this, but you might be able to use the general tags/
>> property/todo matcher
>> on `C-c a m' like this:
>>
>> SCHEDULED<"<today>"/!+MYTODOKEYWORD
>
> This works, but not for a day or week view.
>
> On the positive side, while I was trying to figure out how to do
> this, I've started to rethink how I'm using the different date
> keywords.
>
> I was originally trying to overload the meaning of SCHEDULED. Making
> a TODO item that starts in the future and then will continue showing
> up until done (as in the manual) for "WAITING" items, but also as a
> TODO item that starts in the future, but then should become a normal
> TODO item for everything not a "WAITING" item.
>
> I think a better approach to the second one is going to be using a
> property like ACTIVEON, like so:
>
> :PROPERTIES:
> :ACTIVEON: <2008-10-01 Wed>
> :END:
>
> I'm still at the idea stage here, but think it could work with a hook
> similar to org-expiry.el or org-depend.el
I'm not entirely sure I follow this --- are you looking for something
that will be like a release time in scheduling? I.e., the task would
effectively be invisible (at least on agenda view) until its ACTIVEON
date, and then act like a normal task from then on?
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