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From: Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>
To: Ken Harris <kengruven@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: C-a and C-e in org-mode
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:22:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <232A3566-C78E-4D7C-BF37-7A8FE624C350@uva.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d97bec7a0902021746m5c3f4397j801b92bb024c21e2@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ken,

my, maybe sightly arrogant, reaction was as it was because I have
never considered that calling these commands with a prefix would
be useful in an interactive way, given that other motion commands
like paragraph motion or simply pressing C-a several times
seemed so much more accurate and useful in such cases.

But of course, you are completely right that the standard
behavior should be fully in place if you do not configure the
relevant variables.  Just never occurred to me.

I will address this soon.

Thanks

- Carsten

On Feb 3, 2009, at 2:46 AM, Ken Harris wrote:

> Hi Carsten,
>
>> Hmmm, why would you ever want to call thee commands with
>> a prefix argument?  That did not occur to me, which is why these
>> commands do not care about it.
>
> Do you mean "what does it do"?  It goes down by that many lines first.
>
> Do you mean "what's the practical value"?  I'm right-handed, so I
> frequently move my right hand over to the mouse to test my program,
> but my left hand always stays on the keyboard (what else would it
> do?).  On my keyboard layout, I can hit all of C-u, C-a, C-e, C-p,
> C-k, and C-y with my left hand, so I can a whole lot of simple
> navigation editing without putting down the mouse (or mousing back
> over to my emacs window).  If C-a and C-e can't use numeric prefixes,
> I need twice as many hands to move the cursor down.  :-)
>
> More generally, I have many years of experience with the emacs
> keybindings.  A mode should have a really good reason to change the
> built-ins.  (Steve Yegge's js2-mode also screws up some of these, but
> has what are essentially unbreak-my-keybindings variables to let you
> work around them.)  It looks like this is not a case of it being
> intentional, but merely that nobody has gotten around to it yet.
> That's fine, but I'm simply reporting that some of us would like this
> fixed.  :-)
>
>
> - Ken

next prev parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-03 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-28 21:58 C-a and C-e in org-mode Ken Harris
2009-01-29 23:16 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-02-03  1:46   ` Ken Harris
2009-02-03 15:22     ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2009-02-03 15:34     ` Dale Smith
2009-02-03 15:40       ` Manish
2009-02-15 21:09     ` Carsten Dominik

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