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From: "Stefan-W. Hahn" <stefan.hahn@s-hahn.de>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Behaviour of org-open-at-point and org-return (was commit 4e864643 breaks org-return)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 17:41:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151025164126.GC10154@scotty.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151024064847.GA14197@pille.home>

Mail von Stefan-W. Hahn, Sat, 24 Oct 2015 at 08:48:47 +0200:

Hello,

as I observed there is a change in behaviour of org-return from on

commit 4e864643bdb6bba3e000ea51fb746a26e40b1f77
Author: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Date:   Sun Oct 18 09:36:15 2015 +0200

for timestamps, date ranges and any link.

The same change of behaviour was done for org-open-at-point from on

commit d75fa9febc676af4893fba9e4d53d5babbb801aa
Author: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
Date:   Sun Mar 2 10:32:51 2014 +0100

for timestamp, any link and footnote-reference (perhaps other I'm not sure).

For example of a link:

   [[link][description]]x

If cursor was at position x the old behaviour of org-return (hitting <RET>)
was to open a new line, and position the cursor at the beginning of the new
line. The old behaviour of org-open-at-point was to say "no link".

For me this seems consistent because if you go with the cursor over
position x you see no hint and mouse-click do nothing. You have to go
over the link to see face changing and be able to mouse-click top follow
the link.

Additonally description of org-open-at-point say "... When point is on a
link, follow it....", not "on or after".

Also if you insert a link by yanking or org-insert-link cursor is positioned
directly after inserted link, cursor pos x s.o. With old behaviour you can
behaviour you can straight hit <RET> to get a newline. With new behaviour
you have to add space before <RET> or call open-line and position the
cursor.

For me the new behaviour seems inconsistend itself because everytime
I want to get a new line I noew have to check if cursor is positioned
right after a timestamp, or link. Or I have to shutoff org-return-follows-link.

Are there any other org'ers with opinions about this behaviour?
I'm really interested in your and others opinion about this behaviours
before building some workarounds for me personally. (Perhaps I have overseen
something in the big pictures?)


With kind regards,
Stefan

P.S. Excue me if not being subtle enough, its difficult to me beeing subtle
in a foreign language.

-- 
Stefan-W. Hahn                          It is easy to make things.
                                        It is hard to make things simple.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-25 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-22 16:57 commit 4e864643 breaks org-return Stefan-W. Hahn
2015-10-23 20:07 ` Stefan-W. Hahn
2015-10-23 22:34   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-10-24  6:48     ` Stefan-W. Hahn
2015-10-25 16:41       ` Stefan-W. Hahn [this message]
2015-10-28 14:02         ` Behaviour of org-open-at-point and org-return (was commit 4e864643 breaks org-return) Matt Lundin
2015-10-31 22:38         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-11-01 23:19       ` commit 4e864643 breaks org-return Simon Thum

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